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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SerchforPerch" data-source="post: 132884" data-attributes="member: 2585">Duckslayer, Ithink I know you<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />  and thanks for the excellent information above as I think your spot on and providing very sound advice to a guy wanting a pointing breed.Pluck- Have you owned a pointing breed yet??  If you’re really looking for a Griffon - I would certainly put a lot of consideration or at least keep your options open to a GWP. From what I gather reading your posts, I was much like you and wanted the "part time" hunting dog and a "most of the time" family dog and Man was I wrong!! If you want your dog to be a good field dog you must put the time and training into it and you will be glad that you did.. I thought I was doing the right amount of training but after a nightmare NA test I realized that my training efforts didn’t do my dog any justice.  So if you think your training your dog right- do more!   I've since refined my training approach and have had made some pretty good strides forward but she surely needs a bit more work to become a fully confident hunting dog.   Like DS said above there are some very reputable breeders in the state and for the cost, honestly there isn't that much difference between the two breeds when it comes to hunt, drive, desire and all around family pets..  The family dog comes naturally, however, the drive and desire doesn’t so it’s your job to get it to where you want it to be in the field. </blockquote>

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