Florida School Shooting

[KDM]

At almost EVERY large gathering of people, there is armed security. Sporting events, concerts, fairs, etc, etc, etc. Why isn't there the same security at schools which are a place where large gatherings of people happen every day?? Words on a piece of paper DO NOT have the ability to protect my child. Laws DO NOT have the ability to protect my child. Liberals spouting political rhetoric calling for the confiscation firearms DO NOT have the ability to protect my child. GOOD MEN carrying adequately sized firearms with the WILL, KNOWLEDGE, and SKILLS to use them MOST DEFINITELY have the ability to protect my child. I would, without a doubt, throw my hat in the ring if a position were to open at my daughters school for armed security.

Our nation isn't kept safe by our laws, words, or signs. Our nation is kept safe by the men and women holding FIREARMS standing behind those things that keep our nation safe.

 

[guywhofishes]

 

[shorthairsrus]

FYI guys -- our schools her in little msp -----

we have a resource officer ---- or should i say several ---- do they stand by the door every morning - no ---- should they maybe?? Do we need to break down every search law known to man----- we already have that too ----dogs check the cars lockers; breatherlizers at games we have all that. We could add metal detectors -- that i would pay for.

how are you going to stop a guy like the one in vegas ---- your not ------- to stop it somebody is going to lose a freedom.

This kid should be sentanced to 10 consective days and nights ont he ND prairie with a t shirt and jeans on starting tonight. Filmed on you tube for all the kids to see what they have coming if they do this BS---- first the cold then the fire.

 

[Twitch]

We need the media to stop sensationalizing the shootings
We need better access to mental health care for the people who need it
We need more studies done on the side effects of just doping people up
We need to realize we have a huge morality issue in our country
We need to get the message out that there will be consequences, not an easy jail sentence and not death so they can think of themselves as martyrs but hard labor for little pay and then make them donate the money to the victims families
We need....

 

[Obi-Wan]

How does someone walk into a school with a rifle?? We need to build walls surrounding our schools, so someone armed with an AR=15 can't walk on in.

The problem with single entrances is it also eliminate escape routes

 

[Obi-Wan]

 

[PrairieGhost]

I spent an interesting day today. Our church put on a seminar called Sheepdog. It was for law enforcement people and the subject was security in churches and schools. We talked about the Florida shooting and how gun control will do nothing. They said the first line of security is someone in the parking lot.
Do you remember the "draw the prophet" contest in Dallas where two Muslims jumped out of a car with AK47's and a police officer dumped them both with his handgun? He was one of the speakers. Another was a retired army colonel. Another was a pastor for 15 years and a police officer for 15 years.
Churches and schools are soft targets. We don't hear as much about churches, but over 600 people have been murdered in churches since 2009. With communist take over of countries in the last century more Christians were killed than all previous centuries. 90 million Christians killed in the 1900's.
They were not soft on pastors or politicians. They say it's foolish to expect that faith protects you. They say politicians like unarmed people. They said that what's worse than the murder rate is the sexual predators that also know a church is a soft target. We have to be more careful who we hire, especially those who work with our youth.
Lot more, by my old brain can't remember it. So I did buy one book called "Assassination Generation". It's about the current disregard for the value of human life.

 

[Sum1]

When kids are raised with liberal morals which is what is taught in schools and then watch how there liberal role models are behaving, you know making up blatant lies about there President, mocking God, mock killings of their President, teaching them to hate themselves and the color of their skin (think white privilege), basically being taught to hate their fellow man and themselves in general. There isn’t a a law in the books that will stop what is being drilled into the heads of these kids. We have a very bleak future ahead of us. The poison that is liberalism is what will ultimately be our downfall. In other words hatred is what they are being taught.

 

[Allen]

This is close to 20 school shootings already in 2018. Unbelievable.

I've seen that stated before on other sites. The truth is, more than a couple of them were accidental firearm discharges involving LEOs, some were weapons brought to school and not used, some were targeted vendettas, and a small handful were actual people with ill intent on a larger scale.

 

[raider]

simple question to you all... how much have guns changed in the last 25 year??? how much has our society changed in the last 25 years???

i would suggest to you that the most common guns used in these tragedies were found from the early 80's on... columbine happened in 1999 - roughly 5 years after the "information age" gained full steam and allowed the rapid transfer of information into private hands through the internet...

we don't have a second amendment problem, we have a first amendment problem... sell that to the left and hollywood...

do you think they would be willing to scale back the first amendment "for the children"???

 

[Obi-Wan]

This is close to 20 school shootings already in 2018. Unbelievable.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/her...eport-of-18-school-shootings-breaks-down.html

14, 2018 - Parkland, Florida
A 19-year-old former student entered Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and opened fire, killing 17 and injuring multiple others. The school was put into lockdown. The incident has been ranked as one of the top 10 deadliest mass shootings in modern U.S. history.
Jan. 23, 2018 - Benton, Kentucky
A 15-year-old student brought a handgun to Marshall County High School and opened fire in the school's atrium, leaving two dead and 17 injured, the Associated Press reported.
Jan. 31, 2018 – Philadelphia, PA
A 32-year-old man was shot and killed outside of Lincoln High School during a basketball game. Police responded to reports of a fight, and said at least three different weapons were discharged. The school was put into lockdown, according to the AP.
Jan. 22, 2018 – Italy, Texas
A 16-year-old student at Italy High School opened fire with a semi-automatic handgun in the school cafeteria. The gunman wounded a fellow student, who later recovered, the AP reported. The school was placed under lockdown, following the incident.
Jan. 20, 2018 – Winston-Salem, NC
A 21-year-old football player, Najee Ali Baker, was shot and critically injured following an altercation at a Wake Forest University party. Baker was taken to a hospital, where he succumbed to his injury, according to WTHI-TV.
Jan. 10, 2018 - Sierra Vista, Arizona
A 14-year-old student at Coronado Elementary School shot himself in the bathroom at school. The shooting was initially reported as an active shooter, forcing the school into lockdown. The seventh grader was pronounced dead at the scene, USA Today reported.
Feb. 5, 2018 – Oxon Hill, Maryland
An Oxon Hill High School junior was shot twice in a school parking lot, during what police say was an attempted robbery. The 17-year-old later recovered. The shooting took place on school grounds, but after school hours, AP reported.
Feb. 1, 2018 - Los Angeles, California
A 12-year-old student at Salvador B. Castro Middle School was charged with negligent discharge of a firearm after a semi-automatic rifle she brought to school went off. Four students were injured, and the school was placed on lockdown for several hours, USA Today reported.
Feb. 8, 2018 - New York, New York
A 17 year-old student fired a gun, hitting the floor of a classroom at Metropolitan High School. Police took the student in custody, but no injuries were reported, ABC7 reported.
Jan. 22, 2018 – Gentilly, Louisiana
An unknown person in a pickup truck drove past The NET Charter High School and fired shots at students standing in the campus parking lot. One boy was injured, but not by gunfire. Two students were arrested on suspicion and the school was temporarily placed into lockdown, according to the The Times-Picayune.
Jan. 15, 2018 - Marshall, Texas
Gunshots were fired from a vehicle in the parking lot of a dorm at Wiley College. A bullet was found to have gone through a window into a dorm room, but none of the residents were injured.
Jan. 10, 2018 - San Bernadino, California
Gunshots came through a window at California State University. The university immediately went into lockdown. No suspects were identified and no injuries were reported, AP reported.
Jan. 4, 2018 - Seattle, Washington
Shots were fired by an unidentified shooter into an administrative office at New Start High School. The school went into lockdown, though no injuries were reported, according to KIRO 7.
Jan. 26, 2018 - Dearborn, Michigan
A fight broke out during a basketball game at Dearborn High School. School officials removed the two persons involved, who were not students. Shots were later fired in the parking lot, but no injuries were reported, according to WXYZ Detroit.

Jan. 25, 2018 - Mobile, Alabama
A disagreement between two 16-year-old students at Murphy High School escalated when one of them pulled out a handgun. The student with the handgun then fled school administrators, who tried to calm him, firing four or five times into the air. Nobody was injured, according to Fox 10. The suspect was taken into custody and charged for multiple offenses, including possession of a weapon on school property.
Feb. 5, 2018 - Maplewood, MN
A third-grader at Harmony Learning Center pressed the trigger on a school liaison officer's gun. Although the weapon was outfitted with a trigger guard, it discharged and hit the floor. No injuries were reported.
Jan. 10, 2018 - Denison, Texas
A student at Greyson College picked up a gun, belonging to an advisor. She discharged the weapon, believing it was not loaded and shot through the wall. There were no injuries and no charges filed, KXII reported.
January 3, 2018 - St. Johns, Michigan
A 31-year-old man died by suicide in the parking lot of East Olive Elementary School. There were no students or staff at the scene, because the school had been closed for seven months, WILX reported.This is the incident Everytown decided to remove from their list of school shootings.

 

[Kentucky Windage]

I heard he had admitted to the shooting and would avoid the death penalty in return. That's cute. Maybe to switch it up, we should make that cum stain think that. When he is sentenced, the judge should say "JK, the people you shot and killed never had a say in what was going to happen to them that day, neither will you. Hang him from the tree outside." Done deal. No tax payer money wasted on that POS.

 

[Redneck1]

Why do we have to take a test and attend drivers training to be granted a license to drive a car? Could a test and training be required to purchase a gun too? I'm not saying it would eliminate all crazy shitheads from eventually committing a crime but perhaps it would be a period to screen out mentally impaired individuals from obtaining a gun. Being issued a drivers license is a privlidge that has to be earned and maintained, and not a right. I wouldn't feel this would be too much to ask of law abiding gun owners. Don't we require Hunter/Gun safety for any young hunters to purchase a hunting license anyway, so why not some prerequisite to purchase a gun even if you don't hunt??

 

[bigcatpike]

Why do we have to take a test and attend drivers training to be granted a license to drive a car? Could a test and training be required to purchase a gun too? I'm not saying it would eliminate all crazy shitheads from eventually committing a crime but perhaps it would be a period to screen out mentally impaired individuals from obtaining a gun. Being issued a drivers license is a privlidge that has to be earned and maintained, and not a right. I wouldn't feel this would be too much to ask of law abiding gun owners. Don't we require Hunter/Gun safety for any young hunters to purchase a hunting license anyway, so why not some prerequisite to purchase a gun even if you don't hunt??

Because it doesn’t say anything about the right to drive in the constitution. Driving is a privilege, not a right.

 

[Jdubya]

He was expelled from the school and not allowed on site, yet it sounds like he walked right in. So what keeps anyone from walking right into a school? I think its time to start building schools with controlled entrances-we do it for airports, why not schools? Make them walk single file by an armed guard and if necessary, through a metal detector.

Amen.

 

[Sum1]

Funny how they want to ban guns when 17 kids were killed and not a peep was said about the 1.3 million babies that were murdered last year. Wonder why they want our guns so bad? People need to wake up and see what’s happening here.

 

[Redneck1]

So doesnt a mentally impaired socially disconnected individual have a right to bear arms in accordance with the constitution?

 

[pointer]

One of the students at that school in Florida had some interesting things to say about gun control, and about his fellow students protesting at the state capital, was hinting around as if to say the leftist media and it's supporters were paying these kids to protest. There was even an interview were the "students were not really students at that school. The first kid I mentioned had said that 17 lives were lost but all anyone cared about was the guns and what type were involved, kinda nailed it IMHO

 

[bigcatpike]

So doesnt a mentally impaired socially disconnected individual have a right to bear arms in accordance with the constitution?

No. This kid essentially stole the gun from a locked cabinet (although it was his own gun, he still was not supposed to have access to the keys). Instead of going to his own gun cabinet he could've gone to someone else's locked gun cabinet who had passed your test and stolen their guns. Or, he could've gone on the internet and in no time at all figured out how to make bombs or he could've used a knife or a vehicle. All restrictions like your suggestion do is keep guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens who can stop a terror attack when they see one. The more hoops there are to jump through the fewer law abiding citizens there are that will go to the trouble of buying a firearm. We have seen gun control fail in Chicago. For some reason, the homicide rate in many countries that have banned guns altogether has not gone down. Our country's problem is that we let our emotions do the thinking instead of using common sense and logic. It is now so painfully obvious that gun control doesn't work, so let's work on the mental health problem and the drugs we prescribe to treat them.

 

[badlands13]

Anyone else watch Dana Loesch on the CNN forum tonight. Wow, does she have some guts!! Marco Rubio was gutsy to go as well.