230 Guides licensed on Devils Lake

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Ban Guiding, Ban tournaments, Ban Sotan's/Sconi's, Impose 16-29" slot limit, Reduce perch limit to 5, increase pike limit to 100...problem solved!

It should be noted, I've never fished nor plan to fish Devils.
 


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I'm not saying the lake is getting fished out, not by a long shot. I'm saying there are folks on the lake daily that could provide fisheries biologists exponentially more data than they're collecting via current data collection methods. Plus, imagine the advertising opportunity for the guides who consistently stay at the top of the list regarding success rates for a given species, size class, or time of year (ice vs. boat). The most successful guiding operations could EASILY monetize the data through more consistent bookings and potentially higher fees for their demonstrable increased chance of success.

Living in DL i constantly hear people bitching about the guides keeping too many big fish. So, you're saying you now want them to report this and then use their size numbers to brag and advertise about? All these guides in a contest all summer and winter to log the most and biggest fish averages. And this will help how?
 

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Ban Guiding, Ban tournaments, Ban Sotan's/Sconi's, Impose 16-29" slot limit, Reduce perch limit to 5, increase pike limit to 100...problem solved!

It should be noted, I've never fished nor plan to fish Devils.

this means your perspective has the most merit - you are a neutral third party!
 

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So guides are increasing, buying equipment maybe land and turning a profit and catching fish.
North Dakotans are spending money fishing/camping/gas/ local establishments and catching fish.

I can see the problem here … should probably put together a grass roots petition and lobby it to lawmakers to close Devils Lake every other year to fishing, this way the lake has time to reproduce saving money for the G&F stocking it and all these people spending money trying to catch fish out of it … I mean that is essentially what most of you are saying… #skyisfalling

I'm not advocating for any less guides or fishermen. If guides area already documenting clients and catches though, it'd be plenty simple for them to snap a pic and text or e-mail that to G&F biologists. I would think it'd be a more consistent data set than what they currently get from weekend creel census takers.

If I were to be granted 1 wish regarding the management of the Devil's Lake basin it would be a SIGNIFICANT increase in active enforcement of just the laws and regulations we already have. Aggressive active enforcement of ANS and bag/possession limits would be a great 1st focus. G&F checkpoints at Lakota, Cando, corner of Hwy's 1 and 20, 2 and 281, 57 and 20, 57 and 281.

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Living in DL i constantly hear people bitching about the guides keeping too many big fish. So, you're saying you now want them to report this and then use their size numbers to brag and advertise about? All these guides in a contest all summer and winter to log the most and biggest fish averages. And this will help how?

By giving fisheries biologists a consistent valid source of catch/kill data. If guides are already keeping the data, it's no thing to snap a pic and text/e-mail it to a G&F repository for the data. In return for providing the data to G&F, the guides have useable data. In my simple little mind, I figure those who are unwilling to send a text/e-mail of data they should already be keeping up to date, might be those most guilty of allowing their clients to skirt regulations. In other words, weed out the slobs. A guide with a real mind for business and maximizing their profits would already be building their own excel sheets with most of this data anyway. "Over the last 5 yrs, the trend has been that the best time to be here for #'s of fish is between X and Y dates." Or, "If you like to slip-bobber, come @ this time, if you want to troll cranks, our best weeks are A-B, if you want to cast cranks or plastics the peak is weeks M-O, and our biggest fish are taken between W-V dates." Imagine how much extra one could charge a client by not only telling them what they want to hear, but being able to show them the data to back it up.
 
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With the latest and greatest in fishing gear,electronics, boats, motors, camera's etc, the fish don't have a chance. If something had to be done I would be in favor of lowering daily limits numbers, of course this is predicated to adhering to said limits and enforcing them.:;:stirthepot
 


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So guides are increasing, buying equipment maybe land and turning a profit and catching fish.
North Dakotans are spending money fishing/camping/gas/ local establishments and catching fish.

I can see the problem here … should probably put together a grass roots petition and lobby it to lawmakers to close Devils Lake every other year to fishing, this way the lake has time to reproduce saving money for the G&F stocking it and all these people spending money trying to catch fish out of it … I mean that is essentially what most of you are saying… #skyisfalling


Yeah, I've been hearing the exact same doom and gloom about DL since I first fished it and joined that other website back in the early 90s.

Maybe they'll be right one of these years?

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With the latest and greatest in fishing gear,electronics, boats, motors, camera's etc, the fish don't have a chance. If something had to be done I would be in favor of lowering daily limits numbers, of course this is predicated to adhering to said limits and enforcing them.:;:stirthepot

Maybe we can lower the limits just for guides and anyone driving a boat worth more than $20k, or has electronics worth more than $200?
 

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IMO --

1. the hmong numbers - way down -- for that matter shore line fishermen down -- a couple maybe 3 weeks you see em.
2. The out of staters w/o guides - they get battered by weather -- most come to early in the season.
3. I fish it every weekend - i see a few guides in pelly --- Guides are all up on DRY right--- i really dont run into guides -and the one that said 230 guides he is ussually behind the counter selling me some nice crawlers.
4. I ran up to Mikes one weekend - full of sotas with old lunds.
5. If we can get one rainy cold summer - the bugs will take out the sconis

If the weather keeps up like it has been - it will take care of the guides and the out of staters.


Thank god for bottom bouncers #$%^&>

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They had the weather gods on the radio today ---- expect May before ice is off. That will take a few sotas off the lake
 

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IMO --

1. the hmong numbers - way down -- for that matter shore line fishermen down -- a couple maybe 3 weeks you see em.
2. The out of staters w/o guides - they get battered by weather -- most come to early in the season.
3. I fish it every weekend - i see a few guides in pelly --- Guides are all up on DRY right--- i really dont run into guides -and the one that said 230 guides he is ussually behind the counter selling me some nice crawlers.
4. I ran up to Mikes one weekend - full of sotas with old lunds.
5. If we can get one rainy cold summer - the bugs will take out the sconis

If the weather keeps up like it has been - it will take care of the guides and the out of staters.


Thank god for bottom bouncers #$%^&>

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They had the weather gods on the radio today ---- expect May before ice is off. That will take a few sotas off the lake

Fixed

Thank god for swim baits#$%^&>
 

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