SB2137

[wslayer]

If you'd have ever had to pick branches up out of multiple fields after a bad wind storm, you'd want to pull out every shelter belt to. Then after you get them all picked up, another wind storm comes through and does it again. I'm a cattleman, not as much of a farmer so I like trees and shelter belts for wind protection for cattle so as much as I cuss old shelter belts at times, I'm still planting new ones. We have deer here because they have cover and food sources, annoys me that the people in good farm country east of me pull out all their trees burn all their sloughs and then can't figure out why they don't have deer around their place so they drive over here to road hunt.

I hear you and I have cleaned up along trees before digging and planting or cutting hay.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

I like reading everyone's opinion on this, but the first name basis with the insane scares the crap out of me. Let's test you ----- have you ever held hands with Fritz?

No worries, we will never get it all.

Retired federal agent Bruce, your thoughts on the new Bill?

https://ndlegis.gov/assembly/69-2025/regular/documents/25-0460-01000.pdf

 

[wct12]

I like reading everyone's opinion on this, but the first name basis with the insane scares the crap out of me. Let's test you ----- have you ever held hands with Fritz?

I say like 5-6 comments earlier on here he’s my dad.. ya know, wct and i believe that he was gst?.. that T stands our last name which Brock knows also lol

 

[Fritz the Cat]

A third CWD Bill introduced:

https://ndlegis.gov/assembly/69-2025/regular/documents/25-0884-01000.pdf

 

[bravo]

Who’s going to foot the bill for the electron microscope lab and tech, and extra prion slide storage space at the state lab? And what exactly will storing slides of positives accomplish? Seems like a waste of taxpayer money and a pretty frivolous bill. Wasting lawmakers time to get one over on the game and fish department.

Though I’m not surprised. I’ve said from the get go that this has nothing to do with CWD at the root, you just want to dismantle the g&f so they’re out of the farm bureau’s way.

 

[Trip McNeely]

What if cwd wasn’t made out to be what they have made it? What if the entire thing didnt get blown up to this level? What if the government had just left it all alone instead of making an issue where to anyone with an ounce of logic wasn’t and isnt an issue to begin with? Who pushed it? Did the people ask for any of it? Who started this giant waste of time?point your finger in the direction it belongs and not at those actually trying to fight back government overreach. Blame the ones who started this shitshow because most of us called cwd bullshit from the start.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Tune in to KFYR radio at 4:00

 

[PrairieGhost]

Though I’m not surprised. I’ve said from the get go that this has nothing to do with CWD at the root, you just want to dismantle the g&f so they’re out of the farm bureau’s way

You may --- no you are on to something there. Im currently sitting on a hill watching for coyotes and listening to KFYR. I woukd like to know more about CWD, but if they have spent that much and know so little it's time to back off, monitor, and wait for the technology to catch up with what we want to know.
Now they are talking about predation. If we want to help with that use the electronic posting and try build something positive out of that crap. Require reposting on January 1st. Also many landowners are ok with coyote hunting. Color code for big game, upland game, predators, and no trespass. Red no hunting, yellow hunting after deer season. Something can be done so us old guys with artificial knees and congestive heart failure can drive around and try for a couple coyotes a winter. Ya I know get out and walk, buy if you have a tough time makeing it out of the basement your not going to walk a mile through snow.

Am I in trouble for feeding fox in the back yard?

 

[BrockW]

Who’s going to foot the bill for the electron microscope lab and tech, and extra prion slide storage space at the state lab? And what exactly will storing slides of positives accomplish? Seems like a waste of taxpayer money and a pretty frivolous bill. Wasting lawmakers time to get one over on the game and fish department.

Though I’m not surprised. I’ve said from the get go that this has nothing to do with CWD at the root, you just want to dismantle the g&f so they’re out of the farm bureau’s way.

We are watching our Game and Fish come under attack from conspiracy theorists.

SB 1325 is proof they don’t even know how the testing protocols work or what the tests actually do.

It would be nice if some of these guys at least had the integrity to be honest instead of pushing lies and disinformation around. But that’s a big ask these days. They want to bait, no matter what they have to do to get it. They should all be ashamed.

 

[wct12]

We are watching our Game and Fish come under attack from conspiracy theorists.

SB 1325 is proof they don’t even know how the testing protocols work or what the tests actually do.

It would be nice if some of these guys at least had the integrity to be honest instead of pushing lies and disinformation around. But that’s a big ask these days. They want to bait, no matter what they have to do to get it. They should all be ashamed.

Brock, again this isn’t a baiting bill. I can bait year round. 365 days a year. Feed for pictures, feed for wildlife watching, just not for hunting. That makes this a hunting restriction fight for me.

Yes the department can’t ban feeding or baiting so they regulate take.. but again, that makes it a hunting restriction.

I know you’ll claim you’re not an “activist”, but you’re still actively lobbying for bills that affect wildlife, including the Antelope gratis tag bill (I even agreed with you that I wish there was some form of change there, but wish it could be done with out limiting opportunity). Sometimes I think you are an activist for good when we agree, sometimes I think you’re just an activist. But the difference is if I think a bill is right or wrong according to my opinion, either way you lobbying (even if we agree), it still makes you an activist also.

 

[PrairieGhost]

Brock, wct12 you both have some points and although I don't have a bone to pick with the Game and Fish they are listening to the wrong people.
A couple years ago I joined Back Country Hunters and Anglers. I joined because if Fritz hated them they must be good. If Farm Bureau hates them they must be excellent. It was tough to admit Fritz was right. Right now I woukd advocate a dewell between Farm Bureau and Land Tawney. Hope they are both accurate. We need common sense North Dskota sportsmen and landowners to stand together as they have in the past. Divided we are both going to loose. Maybe I should have said we are all going to loose.

 

[Pigsticker]

We are watching our Game and Fish come under attack from conspiracy theorists.

SB 1325 is proof they don’t even know how the testing protocols work or what the tests actually do.

It would be nice if some of these guys at least had the integrity to be honest instead of pushing lies and disinformation around. But that’s a big ask these days. They want to bait, no matter what they have to do to get it. They should all be ashamed.

Your organization and what you do for them is literally the definition of Activism.

 

[PrairieGhost]

Oh oh we may all be activists. Since this word is often simply used to call names much like "environmentalist" I thought a definition would be good. So if your a member of Back County Hunters and Anglers or Farm Bureau etc your an activist.

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[Fritz the Cat]

https://www.facebook.com/LadiesOfAnotherView

BEK TV podcast with Dusty Backer. Right now, it is the third item down on the page.

 

[wct12]

Oh oh we may all be activists. Since this word is often simply used to call names much like "environmentalist" I thought a definition would be good. So if your a member of Back County Hunters and Anglers or Farm Bureau etc your an activist.

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1. a person who campaigns to bring about political or social change.

I’ve never denied being an activist. If you have gripes with NDFB, one thing about them is they are a grass roots organization.. their members get a say in policy and a vote.

But for one side to call the other side an activist while denying being one is hypocritical in my book.

 

[PrairieGhost]

I’ve never denied being an activist. If you have gripes with NDFB, one thing about them is they are a grass roots organization.. their members get a say in policy and a vote.

But for one side to call the other side an activist while denying being one is hypocritical in my book.

Oh oh we may all be activists.
You quoted me so please tell me what's hypocritical about my statement.

NDFB, one thing about them is they are a grass roots organization..

If your one of the father cats.

 

[Trip McNeely]

Oh oh we may all be activists.
You quoted me so please tell me what's hypocritical about my statement.


If your one of the father cats.

The difference is who is getting paid to push something and who is not

 

[wct12]

Oh oh we may all be activists.
You quoted me so please tell me what's hypocritical about my statement.


If your one of the father cats.

I didn’t mean you were hypocritical at all.. that was referring to Brock still. Sorry about that.

At least the county FB meetings I’ve been to anyone is able to bring a policy up, and then it is voted on by that county’s members before it’s brought forth the be considered at the state level is how I believe it works.

 

[Tinesdown]

I didn’t mean you were hypocritical at all.. that was referring to Brock still. Sorry about that.

At least the county FB meetings I’ve been to anyone is able to bring a policy up, and then it is voted on by that county’s members before it’s brought forth the be considered at the

I didn’t mean you were hypocritical at all.. that was referring to Brock still. Sorry about that.

At least the county FB meetings I’ve been to anyone is able to bring a policy up, and then it is voted on by that county’s members before it’s brought forth the be considered at the state level is how I believe it works.

So living and hunting in a area with no baiting it actually makes hunting legitimate. I have hunted deer on areas baiting is not allowed for my whole life. Dosnt meen those deer are without food. It meen they dont have a free meal also the bucks usually will not come into a bait pile in my area. I have seen alot of does come into a free handout the bucks around here are different. These deer live off willow saplings.

 

[Tinesdown]

Also have a reply to the williams county massacre so i had been on that group of deer since it was cold i believe it was 2018. The year was cold with prolly 3 ft of snow on the ground ,Those deer where real healthy they lived off twigs and didnt see a sick or one dead. So some of these deer were going up to peoples handouts and that is the only grain crop for these animals. So the jist of it is the deer where doing fine till the joker gnf went and wasted them with choppers. Also they killed way more than they recovered. I found dead deer down there that they shot an didnt get. Its a joke i hate those government agencies for what they did.