Self Driving cars- yes please!

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I might be in the minority, but Im pretty excited about having fully self driving vehicles that I can just sleep in while road tripping to destinations around the country. Would make travel so much easier to be able to leave at 10pm and wake up in any city you want within an 8 to 10 hour range the following morning. How fun would it be to bounce around the country checking out new places if you never have to actually drive yourself between destinations? Also have you heard of platooning vehicles? I dont like the term, I prefer caravanning, but essentially self driving vehicles could travel in strings that draft each other, maintaining communication between the cars, at very close distances to cut back significantly on wind resistance, making travel much more efficient. Also if you are sleeping, speed doesnt matter nearly as much so your car could travel at 50mph instead of 80, energy savings could be around 30% just from driving slower.
 


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I recently bought a 24 F-150 Powerboost that has Bluecruise. I kind of got use to setting the cruise and letting the truck drive. It does yell at you if you take your eyes off the road for to long, but oh well. Unfortunately, it was only a 90 day trial and then $50 a month. I am not spending $50 a month for the convenience. Especially since it really only work on the interstate.
 

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I've also had plenty of discussions with people as to the laws changing when you can sit in the vehicle and it drives itself. I believe there's some bigger cities that have self driving vehicles for taxi services.
 


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I've also had plenty of discussions with people as to the laws changing when you can sit in the vehicle and it drives itself. I believe there's some bigger cities that have self driving vehicles for taxi services.
Was just in San Fran a couple weeks back, they had Jaguar self driving cars as taxi's all over that city
 

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Somehow sleeping while driving doesn’t sound really great. My theory about driving is to trust no one.
ive seen estimates that self driving vehicles will reduce car accidents by 90%
 

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I've also had plenty of discussions with people as to the laws changing when you can sit in the vehicle and it drives itself. I believe there's some bigger cities that have self driving vehicles for taxi services.
I think Austin TX has self driving taxi's already also. Sounds like Tesla will be rolling out an update that will self park cars in the near future, so essentially your car will drop you off at the front door of wherever you are going and then park itself in a parking lot and then come pick you up again at the door when you are ready to leave. Kinda neat feature, especially for older people in ND.
 

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Somehow sleeping while driving doesn’t sound really great. My theory about driving is to trust no one.
I expect that vehicles with safety designed sleeping areas will be much safer in accidents. Imagine if you are laying in a coffin like area thats well padded perpendicularly to the direction of travel, when an impact occurs, the force will be much more spread out over your whole body and they could also have full body airbags deployed that would help distribute forces over your whole body. The less movement you experience, the better in an accident usually.
 

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The idea is great, but I bet it will be garbage in practice. How do you program patches of black ice on a road. How do you program, "Oh shit" a deer just jumped out of the ditch at 15 ft? How do you program high wind gusts from right angles? How about the random farm equipment rolling down interstate at 45 mph? Too many variables to count. If everything is clean, dry, and free from obstacles, self drive would work just fine. However, those chunks of semi tire that are left on the road don't seem to work very well into the equation. I prefer to keep my hands on the wheel when the lives of myself, my family, or the future depends on being aware of one's surroundings.
 


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The idea is great, but I bet it will be garbage in practice. How do you program patches of black ice on a road. How do you program, "Oh shit" a deer just jumped out of the ditch at 15 ft? How do you program high wind gusts from right angles? How about the random farm equipment rolling down interstate at 45 mph? Too many variables to count. If everything is clean, dry, and free from obstacles, self drive would work just fine. However, those chunks of semi tire that are left on the road don't seem to work very well into the equation. I prefer to keep my hands on the wheel when the lives of myself, my family, or the future depends on being aware of one's surroundings.
Self-driving vehicles like Tesla's Full Self-Driving (FSD) system generally have significantly faster reaction times than the average human driver when a sudden obstacle appears in the vehicle's path, primarily due to advanced sensors (e.g., cameras, radar) that enable near-instantaneous detection and processing, often in under 0.3 seconds.

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This is 5-15 times quicker than humans, allowing for more effective avoidance maneuvers in most scenarios, though AVs can still face challenges in complex conditions like low light or turns.Average Human Driver Reaction TimeThe average human driver's reaction time to a sudden obstacle (e.g., a pedestrian, debris, or stopped vehicle) is approximately 1.5 seconds.

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This includes:
  • Perception: 0.4-0.6 seconds to detect the hazard visually or audibly.

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  • Decision and Action: An additional 0.9-1.1 seconds to decide on a response (e.g., brake or swerve) and initiate it, such as moving the foot to the brake pedal (average brake reaction time ~1.43 seconds).

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    Factors like age, distraction, fatigue, or impairment can extend this to 2.5 seconds or more, contributing to 94% of crashes being linked to human error.

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Tesla FSD Reaction TimeTesla's FSD (and similar Level 2-4 autonomous systems) processes data in real-time with low latency, reacting to sudden obstacles in about 0.1-0.3 seconds.

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Key elements:
  • Detection: Sensors like radar detect obstacles over 150 meters away, even in poor visibility (e.g., rain), far beyond human range (~10 meters in fog).

    nature.com
  • Processing and Response: AI models analyze frames at high speeds (e.g., 36-100 fps), enabling predictive avoidance—such as instant braking or swerving—without human-like delays.

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    Real-world examples show FSD avoiding lane intrusions or obstructions "instantly," outperforming humans in detection speed.

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    However, in rare cases (e.g., sensor failures or disengagements), FSD may require human intervention, which can occur every 13 miles on average.

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Direct Comparison
  • Speed Advantage: Tesla FSD reacts 5-15 times faster (0.1-0.3 s vs. 1.5 s), reducing accident risk in scenarios like rear-end collisions (up to 54% lower odds for AVs).

    nature.com
    AVs don't fatigue or distract, further amplifying this edge.
  • Limitations: In dawn/dusk (5x higher AV accident rate) or turning (2x higher), AVs may underperform due to sensor challenges, sometimes reacting slower or less intuitively than humans.

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  • Overall Safety: Studies show AVs like Tesla are safer in most sudden-obstacle situations, with lower crash rates, but full autonomy (e.g., no human fallback) is still evolving.
 

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Then go to sleep in a machine built the cheapest way possible, using the cheapest components possible, by people that are paid the least amount possible. No skin off my butt. Winter is still winter and doesn't give a crap what tech you have, or how wonderful it is in July. Trust it if you want too. I don't. Good luck!!
 

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They will be old school in no time after AI invents the universe travel capsules where you program it to where you want to go and get in and go through a black hole and come out the other side at your destination. It will be dandy for a quick fishing trip or if it's cold here just go lay out on the beach in Hawaii for an afternoon. Haha .


Those self drivers were doing laps at Camp Williams in 2010 , about a dozen or more matching cars probably 3 feet apart around and around the track for days. seemed like they were doing about 50 MPH , Saw a lot of cool things down there technology wise and military training drills.
 

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I might be in the minority, but Im pretty excited about having fully self driving vehicles that I can just sleep in while road tripping to destinations around the country. Would make travel so much easier to be able to leave at 10pm and wake up in any city you want within an 8 to 10 hour range the following morning. How fun would it be to bounce around the country checking out new places if you never have to actually drive yourself between destinations? Also have you heard of platooning vehicles? I dont like the term, I prefer caravanning, but essentially self driving vehicles could travel in strings that draft each other, maintaining communication between the cars, at very close distances to cut back significantly on wind resistance, making travel much more efficient. Also if you are sleeping, speed doesnt matter nearly as much so your car could travel at 50mph instead of 80, energy savings could be around 30% just from driving slower.
One would get about the same amount of sleep that you get when your wife drives.
 


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The idea is great, but I bet it will be garbage in practice. How do you program patches of black ice on a road. How do you program, "Oh shit" a deer just jumped out of the ditch at 15 ft? How do you program high wind gusts from right angles? How about the random farm equipment rolling down interstate at 45 mph? Too many variables to count. If everything is clean, dry, and free from obstacles, self drive would work just fine. However, those chunks of semi tire that are left on the road don't seem to work very well into the equation. I prefer to keep my hands on the wheel when the lives of myself, my family, or the future depends on being aware of one's surroundings.
100%
Sorry not leaving my fate in the hands of a computer that can lock up in an instant, or the unforseen.
 

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Was just in San Fran a couple weeks back, they had Jaguar self driving cars as taxi's all over that city
Do they offer pleasure vacuum devices and kink vids? This is sort of funny now...
 


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