Our Neighbors to the East

[eyexer]

If you’ve been a cop long enough I’m sure you had a situation like that. We all have. My son is a cop. I do know they get tired of hearing the same bullshit stories day after day. I do know honesty goes a hell of a long ways with them. As much as it may hurt sometimes it’ll benefit you in the end

 

[lunkerslayer]

All I know is that if GF would have stayed in the patrol vehicle he most likely would be alive

also when the officer ask Gf what he was on and GF answered truthfully he would be still alive

 

[sl1000794]

I had to edit this article because it was too long to be accepted. It came as an eMail so I cannot reference a url where it can be found. The heart of the article is that When the police arrived GF was dying of a fentanyl overdose more than 3 time the amount that can kill you.


[FONT=&quot]In the death of George Floyd, the State of Minnesota has charged former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin with second-degree murder and former officers Thomas Lane, J. Alexander Kueng, and Tou Thao with aiding and abetting that murder. But, as will be shown in detail below, the physical, scientific, and electronically recorded evidence in the case overwhelmingly and conclusively proves that these defendants are not guilty of the charges and, in fact, played no material role in bringing about Floyd’s death.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Instead, the evidence proves that, when he first encountered the police, George Floyd was well on his way to dying from a self-administered drug overdose. Moreover, far from publicly, brazenly, and against their own self-interest slowly and sadistically killing Floyd in broad daylight before civilian witnesses with video cameras, the evidence proves that the defendants exhibited concern for Floyd’s condition and twice called for emergency medical services to render aid to him. Strange behavior, indeed, for supposedly brutal law officers allegedly intent on causing him harm.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Similarly, the evidence recorded by the body cameras worn by the police conclusively establishes that Floyd repeatedly complained that he couldn’t breathe before the police restrained him on the ground. As documented by Floyd’s autopsy and toxicology reports, his breathing difficulty was caused not by a knee on his neck or pressure on his back, but by the fact that he had in his bloodstream over three times the potentially lethal limit of fentanyl, a powerful and dangerous pain medication known to shut down the respiratory system and cause coma and death. He also had in his system a lesser dose of methamphetamine, which can cause paranoia, respiratory distress, coma, and death.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Beyond those findings, his autopsy disclosed no physical injuries that could in any way account for his demise.[/FONT]
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The transcript of the video footage from the camera worn by Officer Thomas Lane combined with the transcript of the video from Officer Alexander Kueng’s camera lay out on a second-by-second basis all that transpired in their presence from the time they arrived on the scene through Lane’s ambulance trip with Floyd to the hospital.

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[FONT=&quot]Upon their arrival, Lane and Kueng were told by a person identified as “Speaker 1” that a man in the “blue [Mercedes] Benz” parked in front of “Cup Foods” had passed “a fake [$20] bill.” As the officers approached the car, they observed concerning movements in the front seat by the person later identified as Floyd.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Lane drew his sidearm and ordered Floyd approximately seven times to show his hands. Once Floyd finally placed his hands on the steering wheel, Lane holstered his weapon. Nevertheless, Floyd continued to plead with Lane not to shoot him despite Lane’s repeated assurances that he was not going to shoot.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]After he exited the car, Floyd was non-compliant and continued to resist and move about until he was handcuffed and seated on the sidewalk.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Lane and Kueng questioned Floyd and the other two occupants of the car concerning Floyd’s behavior and whether he might be under the influence of drugs.
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[FONT=&quot]Let’s consider the evidence so far. Floyd was incoherent, acting erratically, non-compliant, and foaming at the mouth. He was having trouble walking and standing up. He wanted to lie on the ground. But, while still upright, he complained three times that he was “claustrophobic,” seven times that he “can’t breathe,” and twice that he was “going to die.” And Speaker 9 exclaimed that Floyd looked like he was about to have a “heart attack.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]All of this happened before he was on the ground and immobilized by the police. Nevertheless, as he continued to resist and behave irrationally, his condition deteriorated and his complaints of being unable to breathe increased in frequency even though no one was applying force of any kind to his neck or compressing his back or chest.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]After Floyd was on the ground, he continued to move about and say that he couldn’t breathe. Lane was near Floyd’s feet, Kueng at the middle of Floyd’s body, and Chauvin at his back and head with his knee on Floyd’s neck.
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[FONT=&quot]As Floyd continued to shout that he couldn’t breathe and called for his mother, a radio transmission was recorded saying that the ambulance was approximately four blocks away. When it arrived, Lane got in the ambulance and helped to give Floyd CPR on the way to the hospital.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Before we discuss further what happened at the scene, let’s take a look at Floyd’s 20-page autopsy and toxicology report.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The autopsy report by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office is titled “CARDIOPULMONARY ARREST COMPLICATING LAW ENFORCEMENT SUBDUAL, RESTRAINT, AND NECK COMPRESSION.” Strangely enough, the report, which thoroughly sets forth in detail all physical and toxicological findings, makes no other mention of the purported cause of death. In fact, the first iteration of the report didn’t even mention “law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression,” and the criminal complaint filed by prosecutors stated that the autopsy “revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Moreover, prior to issuing the autopsy report, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner preliminarily found that the “autopsy revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.” (Emphasis added.)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]These preliminary findings by the Medical Examiner were incorporated in the Statement of Probable Cause attached to the arrest warrant for Officer Chauvin, which was filed on May 29, 2020. This date is significant because, as you will see, neither the Medical Examiner nor the prosecutors had yet received Floyd’s toxicology report. That report was issued by NMS Labs of Horsham, Pennsylvania, on May 31, 2020.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In short, Chauvin was charged with third-degree murder (later raised to second-degree murder by Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison) without the benefit of a complete and competent investigation of all the relevant facts and circumstances of Floyd’s death.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Apparently dissatisfied with the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s findings, the Floyd’s family attorney had a re-autopsy performed by Dr. Michael Baden*, the former Chief Medical Examiner of New York City, and Dr. Allecia Wilson of the University of Michigan.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In announcing the re-autopsy findings, Dr. Wilson stated that she and Dr. Baden “have seen accounts from the complaint and based on that, yes our findings do differ [from those of the Hennepin County Medical Examiner]. Some of the information that I read from that complaint states that there was no evidence of traumatic asphyxia. This is the point in which we do disagree. There is evidence in this case of mechanical or traumatic asphyxia.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]However, Dr. Wilson conceded that they did not have access to toxicology results, tissue samples, or some organs, but added that those items “are not likely to change” the results of the re-autopsy.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The re-autopsy concluded that, even without physical evidence of traumatic asphyxia, such as broken bones in the neck, the compression on Floyd’s neck and chest still caused his death by depriving his brain of blood and oxygen and his lungs of air. Dr. Baden stated that the pressure was not visibly supported by autopsy because the pressure applied by the police had been released by the time the body was examined. Noting that “the video is real,” Dr. Baden added that the abrasions on the left side of Floyd’s face and shoulder showed how hard police had pressed him against the pavement. Dr. Wilson also referenced this “physical evidence that there was pressure applied to his [Floyd’s] neck.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]After Drs. Baden and Wilson concluded that Floyd’s death was “a homicide due to the way he was being subdued,” the Hennepin County Medical Examiner then amended his report to include the reference to “complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]With all due respect to Drs. Baden and Wilson, however, they rendered their opinion as to the cause of death without, by their own admission, having considered the results of Floyd’s toxicology screen. If they had, they would have seen that, at the time of death, Floyd was under the influence of a lethal overdose of fentanyl, which, according to the toxicology report, is a rapid-acting synthetic morphine substitute “reported to be 80 to 200 times as potent as morphine,” as well as a lesser dose of methamphetamine, which can also cause convulsions, circulatory collapse, coma, and death.
But before we get to the details of Floyd’s tox screen, let’s consider the following autopsy findings by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner:[/FONT]

No life-threatening injuries identified
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1. No facial, oral, mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae
2. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures
3. No scalp soft tissue, skull or brain injuries
4. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column in juries, or visceral injuries
5. Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma.

[FONT=&quot]Some commentators have attached great importance to the finding of no “facial, oral or conjunctival petechiae,” which are small red or purple hemorrhages that can result from asphyxiation such as would occur if pressure was applied to block the flow of blood to the brain. However, while these petechiae can result when that happens, their absence does not necessarily prove that no such compression occurred.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Instead, the more pertinent question is whether Chauvin’s kneeling on one side of Floyd’s neck cut off the blood flow through both carotid arteries to his brain. The carotids are located on each side of the neck, and people can live with only one functioning carotid artery. This raises the question as to whether Chauvin’s direct application of pressure to only one side of Floyd’s neck cut off the carotid artery on the other side of his neck.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Moreover, in regard to Chauvin’s possible criminal intent or purported desire to harm Floyd, Minnesota police are trained to use a “neck restraint” technique, which is defined in the official training literature as “compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck).” The video of Chauvin kneeling on the side of Floyd’s neck appears in all respects to be a textbook application of this officially approved technique. Put another way, by the training that they had received, the police defendants would have no reason to believe that Chauvin’s kneeling on Floyd’s neck was either causing serious harm or anything other than the approved standard operating procedure.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]We know from the video transcripts that Floyd, in addition to complaining about being unable to breathe while he was still upright, repeated that complaint for a matter of minutes while he was on the ground and being restrained by police. But Floyd remained conscious and complaining for several minutes. How can that be if Chauvin’s knee had cut off the flow of blood to Floyd’s brain? If the police had cut off the flow of blood and oxygen to Floyd’s brain, he would have lost consciousness within seconds, not minutes. (See Nichols, Larry, Law Enforcement Patrol Operations: Police Systems and Practices, McCutcheon Publishing Company, 1995.)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]So why couldn’t Floyd breathe, and how did he die? The clear answers to those questions are to be found in his toxicology report, which overwhelmingly and unerringly supports the conclusion that Floyd’s breathing difficulties and death were the direct and undeniable result of his ingestion of fentanyl mixed with methamphetamine.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]When Floyd arrived at the hospital, his blood was drawn. According to the toxicology report, postmortem testing of that blood established the presence of, among other drugs, “Fentanyl 11 ng/mL” (nanograms per milliter). In that regard, tucked away in the report’s “Reference Comments” is this: “Signs associated with fentanyl toxicity include severe respiratory depression, seizures, hypotension, coma and death. In fatalities from fentanyl, blood concentrations are variable and have been reported as low as 3 ng/mL.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Got that? According to the toxicology report, which is central to the prosecution’s case, at 11 ng/mL, Floyd had over three times the potentially lethal 3 ng/mL dose of fentanyl in his bloodstream when he arrived unresponsive at the hospital.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Similarly, the toxicology report also disclosed the presence of methamphetamine, which it states is “capable of causing hallucinations, aggressive behavior and irrational reactions” as well as “restlessness, confusion, hallucinations, circulatory collapse and convulsions.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Defense counsel should blow up those sections of the toxicology report to Mount Rushmore–size proportions, hang them on the courtroom wall, and read them every five minutes to the jury. They more than explain Floyd’s bizarre behavior, inability to stand, difficulty walking, and complaints about being unable to breathe while sitting, standing, and lying on the ground.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Moreover, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, among the most common characteristics of a fentanyl overdose is “foaming at the mouth … and confusion or strange behavior before the person became unresponsive” (emphasis added). In short, Floyd’s foaming at the mouth, incoherence, physical incapacity, non-compliant behavior, breathing difficulty, and rapid downward spiral into unconsciousness and death are fully explained by the toxicological evidence that he had ingested a massively lethal overdose of fentanyl mixed with a smaller dose of similarly dangerous and debilitating methamphetamine. In other words, by the time he first encountered the police, Floyd had already rendered himself a dead man walking and was only minutes away from expiring.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]So, who killed George Floyd? He did.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The only crime here has been the prosecution’s shockingly incompetent investigation of Floyd’s death. In charging and continuing to prosecute these defendants, Minnesota’s attorney general has failed to take into account the most important and material evidence in the case, i.e., the fact that Floyd’s inability to breathe started while he was still upright and mobile and the scientific proof that his death was the direct and inescapable result of a massively fatal overdose of a powerful and dangerous drug known to cause, in the words of the toxicology report, “severe respiratory depression, seizures, hypotension, coma and death.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The proof of the defendants’ innocence is undeniable. But given the violence and rioting that has followed in the wake of Floyd’s death, will it be possible for these defendants to receive justice? In other words, will there be a judge or jury with enough integrity and courage to defy the mob and, in recognition of the clear and overwhelming exculpatory evidence, set these wrongfully accused men free.[/FONT]

 

[lunkerslayer]

https://spectator.org/minnesota-v-d...0zybAOHE1I4mbQX_ubFASJ2pjHiZaiS-wAjH_CEHxKcn8
Time to let these officers go

 

[eyexer]

I think they will get their charges dropped. If so say goodbye to Minneapolis

 

[snow]

This AG ellison is a real pos,very racsit,wife beater muslim(live in girl friend) had it in for these cops from day one.it was ellison who held the video of gf resisting until in court,in the meantime mpls burned,worthless mpls mayor and governor sat on they're hands,sad deal.

today most of mpls is un-reconizeable,burnt out city blocks,citizens trapped in the city travel to the burbs for supplies,most grocery stores can't keep up stocking since may,kudo's to the trucking companies doing they're best 24/7.

doubtful mpls will rebuild,why would they?

 

[Mort]

Sad part is, They can't handle the truth, so they'll just riot, loot and burn some more

 

[lunkerslayer]

This AG ellison is a real pos,very racsit,wife beater muslim(live in girl friend) had it in for these cops from day one.it was ellison who held the video of gf resisting until in court,in the meantime mpls burned,worthless mpls mayor and governor sat on they're hands,sad deal.

today most of mpls is un-reconizeable,burnt out city blocks,citizens trapped in the city travel to the burbs for supplies,most grocery stores can't keep up stocking since may,kudo's to the trucking companies doing they're best 24/7.

doubtful mpls will rebuild,why would they?

I think that is what the Muslims of Minneapolis wants is to take over, establish their own sharia law that way they can infiltrate all corners of the country starting with Minnesota. just my opinion

 

[snow]

Could be lunker,good thought.most of mpls is already a 3rd world,,north east area mideastern,filthy,west bank somali even worse with a handful from north africa.,hell I spent a few days in the u of m hosital couple years back,not one born american on staff just a hodgpod of immigrants that barely spoke english.

 

[JayKay]

This AG ellison is a real pos,very racsit,wife beater muslim(live in girl friend) had it in for these cops from day one.it was ellison who held the video of gf resisting until in court,in the meantime mpls burned,worthless mpls mayor and governor sat on they're hands,sad deal.

today most of mpls is un-reconizeable,burnt out city blocks,citizens trapped in the city travel to the burbs for supplies,most grocery stores can't keep up stocking since may,kudo's to the trucking companies doing they're best 24/7.

doubtful mpls will rebuild,why would they?

I gotta say, I hate the lawbreakers involved. The rioters, the looters, arsonists, larceny, etc.

But I was in Minneapolis less than two weeks ago, and it is far from unrecognizable. I was downtown on a very nice Saturday night, and there are hardly people on the streets. I drove over lake, on 35W, and had to slow down to even see a burned building. To say that the city is rubble, is a silly lie. My brother lives in Bloomington, just a handful of miles south of Lake, and it's the same as it's been for the 25 years he's lived there.

I can't stand the thought of riots and looting, but to say "most of Minneapolis is unrecognizable" is completely untrue. If you weren't driving around looking for signs of riots and looting, you wouldn't notice anything out of place.

 

[eyexer]

You won’t see the damage on lake and surrounding areas from I35. Much of what went on there was a dozen blocks east of there. Most has been cleaned up and you wouldn’t know it was there. I can’t recall the exact number of buildings burned but it was a significant number. And due to the nature of cities you have to drive by them to see em. I believe the number of businesses affected and no longer open is like 60. That’s a huge number. And they will probably never reopen. Just wait and see how bad things get when they drop the charges on the cops lol.

 

[Allen]

Personally, I doubt they drop the charges. They will let the jury decide. Because if you are the police officers being charged, would you take a plea bargain if this story is true on the OD?

 

[snow]

jatkay for me it is I'm not talking downtown even tho last weeks protest trashed out many busineses ,my days of chasing on lake street is all burnt down bars ,reasturants just a shell of what it was in my days,back in the 80's.wish I had before and after pics of our stomping grounds.,sad deal,cruising by on the freeway you won't see the distruction,lake street from lake calhoun to the mississippi buildings are gone,rumble,guess its called "old mpls" these days.

 

[JayKay]

jatkay for me it is I'm not talking downtown even tho last weeks protest trashed out many busineses ,my days of chasing on lake street is all burnt down bars ,reasturants just a shell of what it was in my days,back in the 80's.wish I had before and after pics of our stomping grounds.,sad deal,cruising by on the freeway you won't see the distruction,lake street from lake calhoun to the mississippi buildings are gone,rumble,guess its called "old mpls" these days.

I get you. Seeing even one burned-out building is alarming. And I vehemently disagree with just sitting by, while this happens. I think that anybody caught out after curfew had better have a damn good reason, or they should get the book thrown at them. I understand too (it makes me furious) that weeks and months later, they seem to just let people go without even a slap on the wrist. I watched the NODAPL thing closely, and it made me nuts.

I just took issue with the idea that the entire city is rubble. Like I said, my brother has lived there for nearly three decades, and he said if you weren't driving around looking for it, you'd never even notice it. He said the news made it seem like the entire metro was going up in flames, and that was NOT the case.

I lay a LOT of the blame for this, and other things, at the foot of the media.

 

[snow]

Agreed,I think somewhere around 200+ businesses were burnt down just on lake street alone,shells of burnt out cars caught in the crossfire burnt,target and cub foods on lake street but looted before they were torched,sad deal,today would'nt bother going to any part of the city.but thats me plenty of "lookey lou's" gawking at the distruction,might end up in the wrong part of town doing so.

 

[Twitch]

Agreed,I think somewhere around 200+ businesses were burnt down just on lake street alone,shells of burnt out cars caught in the crossfire burnt,target and cub foods on lake street but looted before they were torched,sad deal,today would'nt bother going to any part of the city.but thats me plenty of "lookey lou's" gawking at the distruction,might end up in the wrong part of town doing so.

It may not have always been that way but I’m going to go ahead and say any part of town that has that type of destruction is now the “wrong part of town”. Sad.

Also agree with Jaykay. Today’s media is really an enemy of the people.

 

[eyexer]

At what point can the media be held accountable?

 

[johnr]

I will not be going to any Vikings games, or Twins games in the near future, maybe ever, which really pains me as a life long Vikings fan.
I also really struggle supporting such a liberal pile of shit state, and would not want my family exposed to the crap that the city seems to support.

 

[guywhofishes]

the media IS the left

so it’s all on the left

take your alt-right mumbo jumbo and stick it

 

[snow]

#guywho hates mumbojumbo....I like it.