Big Hissyfit Thrown by Parent over "Black Rifle" Senior Pic

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Big Hissyfit Thrown by Parent over "Black Rifle" Senior Pic

Charlie Renville shared a photograph of his son, Josh, holding a weapon and standing in front of the American flag. And Renville says it’s being unfairly banned from the school yearbook because the principal does not agree with his family’s values.





Fargo North parent wants principal fired over yearbook photo
Charlie Renville shared a photograph of his son, Josh, holding a weapon and standing in front of the American flag. And Renville says it’s being unfairly banned…
valleynewslive.com|By Bradford Arick







http://www.valleynewslive.com/home/...ipal-fired-over-yearbook-photo-361292431.html

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I am not a fan of the pic to begin with.

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reminds me of heavy non-lead waterfowl shotgun shell ads
 


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If he was holding a shot gun in front of a 83 chevy with camo on no one would say anything. It is becasue it is a scary black gun. The kid is showing good trigger control. principal guy is being a liberal pussy just falling in with the pc of today
 

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I hope the limp wrist principal gets fired. Won't happen, still I can dream. He could pursue his vocation abroad.
 


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As a responsible gun owner and supporter of the 2nd amendment, I can't for the life of me understand the logical thinking process behind this. The only possible scenario is probably this chain of hypothetical dialogue:

DAD: So, it's time for your senior pictures, eh? Got any ideas?
SON: I dunno. Jeans and a polo?
DAD: Yeah, I suppose you could do that. Or, do you know what would be really cool?
SON: Uh...
DAD: You should wear your Captain America wife beater and sling that AR over your shoulder!
SON: Do you really think that's a good...
DAD: AND you could stand by Old Glory! 'MURICA *glugs beer*
SON: I'm not sure that's appropriate for a year book, dad.
DAD: You been listening to McFeely boy?? What'd I tell you about all them Libtard ideas? They're infiltrating your cranium with spineless, socialist propaganda. What are they teaching you at school these days?
SON: No, no! I listen to Rush ever day. Scout's honor! If you think it's a good idea, I'll...
DAD: Of COURSE it's a good idea! And if that good-for-nuthin' principal of yours give you any shit, you just get your old man and I'ld rain holy hellfire down on his ass *glugs beer and belches* over Facebook, of course. It'll be a social media and PR nightmare and he'll just have to cave.
SON and DAD in unison: MURICA!!

Or something like that. I don't think common sense was part of the equation....just a fervent contrarian mentality to "stick it to the liberals."

Seriously, though, this is why we can't have nice things. Now because of this, they'll probably pass some school rule that all senior pictures must be taken in school by a hired photographer. They'll remove all creative license to avoid any conflict in the future.

EDIT: Ha! Someone got sand in their vag and negative repped me for this. Priceless.

EDIT 2: There are also many more who apparently keep sand firmly out of their britches. Bravo, gentlemen.
 
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well he is getting his 15 minutes anyway.

I am an American, and own an "assault rifle", but don't think it looks like an appropriate senior picture. I would not ban it, nor fight for it.
What if it was a dude in a dress? or some hands up don't shoot nonsense hoodie guy? or lyncans avatar?
Kind of a hard place for the principal to be in.
 

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Ok, the kid is dressed like douche. Lets say he's dressed for a day at the Country Club...
 

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From the story I heard, this young man took the time to build this rifle on his own and is proud of it and wanted it in his senior pic.

I have also heard the principal is making the argument that it is against the law to show weapon in pictures on school property.

I don't know if there is any validity in either of the previous two statements, just hearsay. But if the principal does believe it is against the law to show a gun in a picture, they better not have any pictures from the revolutionary/civil wars, WWI or WWII, etc, depicting guns in hand. That would be against the law. God knows what could be in the library at a high school. They better not have any hunting magazine either. Also against the law. In fact, as a precaution they better not have any books on pluming in that library either, as that can be used to make a bomb.

Where does this line of thinking stop? I don't know about most of you, but I am getting so sick and tired of this PC crap from the left side is so worried about offending anyone. What happened to the generation of people that could put there big boy/girl panties on, rub some dirt on it and move on. ;:;rant
 

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Every one talks a big game about hatting how the world is being pc but then this comes up and it is to offensive to people..........

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If he was holding a shot gun in front of a 83 chevy with camo on no one would say anything. It is becasue it is a scary black gun. The kid is showing good trigger control. principal guy is being a liberal pussy just falling in with the pc of today


This has some legs to it…how many of us can grab a high school year book and find a picture of a kid holding a shot gun…I know now-a-days there are different rules and every school district seems to vary on what is appropriate or not…but honestly in today’s world did the Dad every really think this would get in the year book…I mean take the pic, hand it out to your friends, put it on social media (probably get way more exposure anyways) but to think a school would publish this…c’mon man
 

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Ok, the kid is dressed like douche. Lets say he's dressed for a day at the Country Club...

I guess if the kid was in honor guard or part of the school's rifle team, I could see it. But then I'd expect the reaction from the dad to be along the lines of "well, my son just wanted to show off his favorite hobby. He wasn't trying to cause an uproar." Instead, the reaction by dad tells me he was HOPING to start something just to get his 15 minutes. It comes down to intent.

Tell me honestly: If you had done this as a teenager, what would your parents have said/done? Mine would have tanned my hide and grounded me for a week. Not because they're liberal assholes who hate guns, but because we were raised to be respectful. Acting macho and flashing a gun just to get a reaction is the opposite of respectful.

I will say this: I find it hugely ironic that a bunch of conservatives who scoff at helicopter parenting and today's entitled generation -- and blame so much on the fact that teachers have to cafe to whining/bitching parents and students -- are siding with the parents and students with this one. What happened to letting the teachers have the authority?? Does that only work as long as they agree with the way you think?
 

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Hey - in my day you either had the same dorky head-on picture taken by the hired pro - or you took the risk of submitting a mom/pop pic from hell that you lived with the rest of your life as "the odd duck with a different style than anyone else".

Personalized BS had not yet been invented as I recall. I took the easy way out and had no pic taken/submitted.

I think this individuality thing has raised a bunch of Nancies. I'd like to see school uniforms too. Some of them are downright smashing. (based on observations in Mexico recently)

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From the story I heard, this young man took the time to build this rifle on his own and is proud of it and wanted it in his senior pic.

Oh! Well that's different! By all means then - that's what this kid shall have! Let's try to get the principal fired because the kid built a gun and wants it in his pic!!!

Who's with me?

:::
 

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I guess if the kid was in honor guard or part of the school's rifle team, I could see it. But then I'd expect the reaction from the dad to be along the lines of "well, my son just wanted to show off his favorite hobby. He wasn't trying to cause an uproar." Instead, the reaction by dad tells me he was HOPING to start something just to get his 15 minutes. It comes down to intent.

Tell me honestly: If you had done this as a teenager, what would your parents have said/done? Mine would have tanned my hide and grounded me for a week. Not because they're liberal assholes who hate guns, but because we were raised to be respectful. Acting macho and flashing a gun just to get a reaction is the opposite of respectful.

I will say this: I find it hugely ironic that a bunch of conservatives who scoff at helicopter parenting and today's entitled generation -- and blame so much on the fact that teachers have to cafe to whining/bitching parents and students -- are siding with the parents and students with this one. What happened to letting the teachers have the authority?? Does that only work as long as they agree with the way you think?


Bullshit this has nothing to do with a teacher having authority if the kid was acting out in school teacher should do what needs to be done. This is some principal enacting policies he makes up as he goes to fall in line with the anti gun pc crowd babies. If the rules had stated BEFORE this picture was taken then they are looking for trouble but the rule was made AFTER to fit the principals perspective on what is right and wrong. If he was holding a wingmaster would the principal have said any thing?
 

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I guess if the kid was in honor guard or part of the school's rifle team, I could see it. But then I'd expect the reaction from the dad to be along the lines of "well, my son just wanted to show off his favorite hobby. He wasn't trying to cause an uproar." Instead, the reaction by dad tells me he was HOPING to start something just to get his 15 minutes. It comes down to intent.

Tell me honestly: If you had done this as a teenager, what would your parents have said/done? Mine would have tanned my hide and grounded me for a week. Not because they're liberal assholes who hate guns, but because we were raised to be respectful. Acting macho and flashing a gun just to get a reaction is the opposite of respectful.

I will say this: I find it hugely ironic that a bunch of conservatives who scoff at helicopter parenting and today's entitled generation -- and blame so much on the fact that teachers have to cafe to whining/bitching parents and students -- are siding with the parents and students with this one. What happened to letting the teachers have the authority?? Does that only work as long as they agree with the way you think?

Yeah, sort of. I do agree with the shi'ite stirring point.
 


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We had punk rockers with dog collars and Mohawks, I don't think many parents liked it, but who did it hurt? Kids sitting on the hood of a camaro, guitars, maybe even a hunting dog or two. In Colorado you can buy weed, maybe a kid token a joint would be sweet. Merica
 

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I took senior pics with my shotgun and dog. As a principle, I would have allowed it because it appears the kid and his family were trying to stir the pot. If you don't feed the pot stirrer, the guy with the spoon loses interest. There's nothing inherently wrong with the pic. The kid's punishment is everybody that looks at the yearbook will think he is a douche.
 

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Bullshit this has nothing to do with a teacher having authority if the kid was acting out in school teacher should do what needs to be done. This is some principal enacting policies he makes up as he goes to fall in line with the anti gun pc crowd babies. If the rules had stated BEFORE this picture was taken then they are looking for trouble but the rule was made AFTER to fit the principals perspective on what is right and wrong. If he was holding a wingmaster would the principal have said any thing?

I know it's semantics, but in my mind (and in many smaller schools especially) principals ARE teachers. They may have more pull, but they still teach.

But I digress. Schools, especially these days, are constantly battling and sorting out what is appropriate. I remember in high school when a rather well endowed female was reprimanded for wearing a tank top with spaghetti straps. It wasn't her fault Fruit of the Loom's tensile strength wasn't great enough to snuggly wrangle her mammoth melons. Yet, one teacher (a female) didn't deem her attire appropriate and she was asked to change into something less erection inducing.

Her mother was LIVID. Not at her daughter, but at the school. I remember hearing the screaming because I was in study hall at the time and wondered if a cat or some furry critter had gotten caught in an air duct.

Despite her wailing, the teacher and principal stuck to their guns and soon implemented a more defined policy on clothing. As I recall, clothing was (and probably still is) always a hot issue in high school, and I even had to turn my T-shirt inside-out one day because it was advertising Moose Drool Brewery (my folks bought it for me when they took a trip to Montana). My parents weren't mad when I told them I couldn't wear it any more. Mom even said, "oh, well if that's what your teacher said then I guess you better keep it at home."

Made sense to me, despite thinking it was a pretty dumb rule at the time. Now older, wiser and a parent myself, I can see the reasoning.

This is the same high school that currently has one of the best trap teams in the state of Minnesota (which really pisses me off because it came about 13 years too late! Gaaa! Trap league would have been so much more fun than tennis).

As for you question about a Wingmaster vs. AR, I honestly don't know what the principal's reaction would have been. I would expect the same. My buddies and I hunted a ton in high school, and often (stupidly) kept our shotguns in the trunk of our vehicles so we could jump ponds or walk ditches on the way home. But never once did I think it was smart to take a picture of said gun and get it in the yearbook. Common sense told me that was a dumb idea, despite the fact I was probably one of the most diehard hunters in our high school (I used to bring VHS hunting tapes in to watch during our last period of the day, which was a study hall/free period deal).

Like I said, I think intent plays into this. Dad/son obviously were hoping to stir the hornets nest. Well, I guess they were successful. Good for them.

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I took senior pics with my shotgun and dog. As a principle, I would have allowed it because it appears the kid and his family were trying to stir the pot. If you don't feed the pot stirrer, the guy with the spoon loses interest. There's nothing inherently wrong with the pic. The kid's punishment is everybody that looks at the yearbook will think he is a douche.

Ha! Good point.
 

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My Son graduated 4 yrs ago this coming May. We took his senior pictures of his guns , pickup and some of his mounts and racks. Now this was small town N.D. Samething could not put them in school policy. Other kids had tried years before and something. So it happens everywhere and there not be targeted.
 

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I did take pictures with my guns just like the football guys took pictures with their gear....

QUOTE=Duckslayer100;44611]I guess if the kid was in honor guard or part of the school's rifle team, I could see it. But then I'd expect the reaction from the dad to be along the lines of "well, my son just wanted to show off his favorite hobby. He wasn't trying to cause an uproar." Instead, the reaction by dad tells me he was HOPING to start something just to get his 15 minutes. It comes down to intent.

Tell me honestly: If you had done this as a teenager, what would your parents have said/done? Mine would have tanned my hide and grounded me for a week. Not because they're liberal assholes who hate guns, but because we were raised to be respectful. Acting macho and flashing a gun just to get a reaction is the opposite of respectful.

I will say this: I find it hugely ironic that a bunch of conservatives who scoff at helicopter parenting and today's entitled generation -- and blame so much on the fact that teachers have to cafe to whining/bitching parents and students -- are siding with the parents and students with this one. What happened to letting the teachers have the authority?? Does that only work as long as they agree with the way you think?[/QUOTE]
 


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