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ACK for Whales board member Amy Everett DiSibio criticized the federal government’s focus on meeting wind energy targets at the expense of properly studying the potential consequences, which has already resulted in "transformation of an important area for marine life into a construction zone for just the very first power plants."
What a shame that everything turns political. Direct or indirect everything we do has consequences. Those who are opposed to offshore drilling say it's disruptive which it no doubt is. However I am sure one oil well will produce the energy of hundreds of wind turbines, and they need not be replaced so often. The turbine sure are an eyesore around North Dakota.

Many years ago a communication tower was built in the James River Valley near LazMoure, North Dakota. Scientist were concerned about all the cables spanning a major bird migration corridor. When first inspected it looked like no problem, but when nets were placed under the structure it revealed thousands of strikes were happening. Animals were eating the birds that fell removing the evidence. People observed this at North America's largest white pelican nesting collony north of Medina, North Dakota when coyotes were grabbing pelicans that struck power lines.

To say the wind turbines are destructive to whales should be unbiased in consideration. We do many things without knowing consequences. Still there are some things we have to do. We can't sacrifice a civilization for a Robin or a whale. Thanks for the stimulation to seriouse discussion.

As for California fires we should not fear considering all possibilities. Simply because we are honest and sane is not evidence that the entire human population is. Of course we all know that, but at times we forget how sick some minds are. I'm sure some hyper partisan will take advantage of my humor when I propose salt water induces insanity in humans. I offer the coastal states as evidence to such.
 
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What a shame that everything turns political. Direct or indirect everything we do has consequences. Those who are opposed to offshore drilling say it's disruptive which it no doubt is. However I am sure one oil well will produce the energy of hundreds of wind turbines, and they need not be replaced so often. The turbine sure are an eyesore around North Dakota.

Many years ago a communication tower was built in the James River Valley near LazMoure, North Dakota. Scientist were concerned about all the cables spanning a major bird migration corridor. When first inspected it looked like no problem, but when nets were placed under the structure it revealed thousands of strikes were happening. Animals were eating the birds that fell removing the evidence. People observed this at North America's largest white pelican nesting collony north of Medina, North Dakota when coyotes were grabbing pelicans that struck power lines.

To say the wind turbines are destructive to whales should be unbiased in consideration. We do many things without knowing consequences. Still there are some things we have to do. We can't sacrifice a civilization for a Robin or a whale. Thanks for the stimulation to seriouse discussion.

As for California fires we should not fear considering all possibilities. Simply because we are honest and sane is not evidence that the entire human population is. Of course we all know that, but at times we forget how sick some minds are. I'm sure some hyper partisan will take advantage of my humor when I propose salt water induces insanity in humans. I offer the coastal states as evidence to such.
Ahhhhh but one must question, is it salt water or amount of water? Just to the E is no ocean but 10,000 lakes and a similar coastal issue…..grin
 

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Ahhhhh but one must question, is it salt water or amount of water? Just to the E is no ocean but 10,000 lakes and a similar coastal issue…..grin
Hmmmm it would apply well, but there has to be more to it. The northern part of the area your considering could be eastern Dakota, while the southern part is like eastern California. We need to ponder this more.
 

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I guess there is post on x showing that the la reservoir hasn't been filled with water in it since 2009 according to Google earth.
 


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LA LA Land been screwing it self for years.Its like someone building a house on a frozen slough then bitches when it melts. LB
 

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LA LA Land been screwing it self for years.Its like someone building a house on a frozen slough then bitches when it melts. LB
It's not where they built it is the gov over regulation on what they can and can't do with their property.
 

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LA LA Land been screwing it self for years.Its like someone building a house on a frozen slough then bitches when it melts. LB
Agreed or in my case we have a gun range about one mile away as the crow flies,closed club all winter,residential building goes on all winter ( f ing urban sprawl) opening day at the range,folks all fired up to shoot after a long winter,new residents furious about gun shots,city phone ringing off the wall ppl bitchen..lol thankgoodness for grand father laws.
 

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Is there a reason they cannot use ocean water to put fires out? or are they?
It's not that they can't use it, it's that they prefer not to.

Salt water corrodes equipment, pumps and planes.

Its hazardous to the environment, makes for salty soil that washes into rivers. :rolleyes:
 


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has anybody seen the videos on utube about the old guy that stayed and saved his and 2 neighbors houses. 3 different people stayed and saved their homes. 2 of them were 65 years old and said in previous fires the ones that stayed saved their homes.
 

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has anybody seen the videos on utube about the old guy that stayed and saved his and 2 neighbors houses. 3 different people stayed and saved their homes. 2 of them were 65 years old and said in previous fires the ones that stayed saved their homes.
They probably used what water was left. My guess if all stayed all would be lost as not enough water supply.
 

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Come on guys.

These conspiracy theories are what the " left" does.

Appears to be a tragic event that could have been avoided (or at least) minimized but to say it was orchestrated is asinine.
If I were a betting man I would bet that you fell for the Fauci sauce recipe that was going to save you from dying by taking ALL of the jabs and boosters!
 

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Not to Wally, his whole existence is based on the latest conspiracy. He’s cuckoo.
Funny how all of Trump's so-called conspiracy theories 3-4 years ago all turned out to be true. Seems the left-tards were all wrong as usual along with their blind idiot followers!
 


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It's not that they can't use it, it's that they prefer not to.

Salt water corrodes equipment, pumps and planes.

Its hazardous to the environment, makes for salty soil that washes into rivers. :rolleyes:
So what's better for the rivers a few tons of salt or millions of tons of mud? The mudslides are coming.
 

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It's not that they can't use it, it's that they prefer not to.

Salt water corrodes equipment, pumps and planes.

Its hazardous to the environment, makes for salty soil that washes into rivers. :rolleyes:
so they don't want the salt to wash into the rivers that run into the ocean - got it.

Doesn't the 100 pounds of salt to treat each mile of ND highway also wash into the waterways. The state is changing to all salt instead of a salt/sand mixture
 
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so they don't want the salt to wash into the rivers that run into the ocean - got it.

Doesn't the 100 pounds of salt to treat each mile of ND highway also wash into the waterways. The state is changing to all salt instead of a salt/sand mixture
Western ND uses beet juice of some sort, or so I am told
 


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