Chevy vs Ford

[SDMF]

Finally found the picture of the aforementioned ‘63 Dodge.

PS: please don’t make fun of my chicken legs, I’m very sensitive

Probably a bit of distortion from the edge of the camera lens, but, the driver’s front looks to have significant negative camber. Or, did you make some adjustments to improve high-speed cornering?

 

[lunkerslayer]

Almost like the 5.3?

There lots of motors in the 80s and beyond that were go overall motors another was the 4.3, unfortunately the achilles heel was the transmission in most cases.

 

[lunkerslayer]

Finally found the picture of the aforementioned ‘63 Dodge.

PS: please don’t make fun of my chicken legs, I’m very sensitive

Those look like wrestling shoes converted to wrastling moccasins?

 

[Jiffy]

Probably a bit of distortion from the edge of the camera lens, but, the driver’s front looks to have significant negative camber. Or, did you make some adjustments to improve high-speed cornering?

It was a high performance machine!

 

[snow2]

By the looks of it you are so proud of it, rightfully so, you had to cover your boner.

Rough crowd jiffy....hahaha.

 

[Petras]

Westlies and Ford pretty much guaranteed I will never own another ford in my life a few weeks back... Had one of our fleet vehicles in for a second time due to random dieing while driving down the highway, and excessive oil usage.... First time in they completed a recall that was supposed to address the high oil usage... this time they claim that can't get the truck to replicate the dieing issue and they claim to have contacted Ford Corporate about the oil usage and were told it's perfectly normal to have to add a quart of oil every 1k miles.... really...

 

[Motohunter]

I would have to agree with all the negative talk about the Eide Ford service department. My 2020 ford the four wheel drive the actuators would randomly kick in and it would make a terrible grinding noise. Almost sounded like a rock stuck in the disc guard and it happened the same distance from my house every morning. They replaced one side and not the other and the first morning I drove away it did the same thing so back again for the other side. I don't know if that was the cause but then the four-wheel drive started making noises, so I took it back for that. They straight up told me nothing was wrong, so I took it to Northland Performance, and they said no it is definitely not normal. Long story short after 9 trips to Eide and all the bearings and the transfer case being replaced I think they may have finally fixed it. It's not that they didn't fix it but the number of trips into it and the time I had into getting it down there that many times was ridiculous. It was a damn good thing it was still under warranty.

 

[Fester]

There lots of motors in the 80s and beyond that were go overall motors another was the 4.3, unfortunately the achilles heel was the transmission in most cases.

They had a 4.3 turbo back then also. Would beat a corvette of the same year(cyclone/typhoon). The 4.3 was also a 350 block with just two of the cylinders chopped off making it a v6. Kind of similar to chevy today and the reasearch and development they do. The 6.2 is just a bored out 5.3l. Atleast back then when they did the turbo and the grand national they had to do a little bit of researxh on them.

 

[risingsun]

Legs? at first glance I thought he was riding a chicken

I am guessing his body sued for lack of support ??????

 

[SDMF]

They had a 4.3 turbo back then also. Would beat a corvette of the same year(cyclone/typhoon). The 4.3 was also a 350 block with just two of the cylinders chopped off making it a v6. Kind of similar to chevy today and the reasearch and development they do. The 6.2 is just a bored out 5.3l. Atleast back then when they did the turbo and the grand national they had to do a little bit of researxh on them.

The 3.8 GM is the 305 minus 2 cylinders. Same bore, same stroke.

 

[Bauer]

Could someone give me some real-world experience between 3.31 gears and 3.55 gears for mileage and towing? Looking into a new Power Stroke and all my research points to 3.55, but they are harder to find as the 3.31 is the default gearset.

 

[snow2]

Westlies and Ford pretty much guaranteed I will never own another ford in my life a few weeks back... Had one of our fleet vehicles in for a second time due to random dieing while driving down the highway, and excessive oil usage.... First time in they completed a recall that was supposed to address the high oil usage... this time they claim that can't get the truck to replicate the dieing issue and they claim to have contacted Ford Corporate about the oil usage and were told it's perfectly normal to have to add a quart of oil every 1k miles.... really...

Curious about oil consumption? Eco boost engine? Unable to duplicate a malfunction is a tough fix where does one start throwing parts at the issue?

 

[snow2]

Curious about oil consumption? Eco boost engine? Unable to duplicate a malfunction is a tough fix where does one start throwing parts at the issue?

Could someone give me some real-world experience between 3.31 gears and 3.55 gears for mileage and towing? Looking into a new Power Stroke and all my research points to 3.55, but they are harder to find as the 3.31 is the default gearset.

3.55 gears to trailer? Maybe lighter loads occasionally 3.55 yes, heavy duty GM trailer pkg includes 3.73 gears on 1500's engine oil cooler and exterior tranny cooler. Fyi.

 

[Fester]

Curious about oil consumption? Eco boost engine? Unable to duplicate a malfunction is a tough fix where does one start throwing parts at the issue?

How many miles on engine? In the name of climate change these manufactures have been going to low resistance/compresuin rings which basically allows oil by the rings if they get carbon on them. Throw some yamaha ringfree at it.... might help, might not but worth a shot. I had a car that used a quart every 1k. Threw the ringfree in as a shock treatment..poof issue gone. Now i will use it 1 tank every oil change. Still no issues and that was 47k ago

 

[SDMF]

Could someone give me some real-world experience between 3.31 gears and 3.55 gears for mileage and towing? Looking into a new Power Stroke and all my research points to 3.55, but they are harder to find as the 3.31 is the default gearset.

Yes. 249K on my ‘11 6.7L w/3:31’s.

Running empty w/milder tires @ 80 on the GPS w/the cruise set (speedometer says 84, GOS says 80): 15-18 MPG depending on wind. For every 5MPH you slow down, you can add roughly 1-1.5MPG. Go from milder AT’s to more aggressive or MT’s and you’ll give away 1.5-2.5MPG.

Pulling an 18.5’ glass boat @ the same speed, 9-12 depending on wind.

I pulled a 24’ long 8’ tall bumper hitch a couple weeks ago from Fargo to Devils. I got 9 MPG running 80MPH on ‘29 and 75MPG on ‘2.

I have a 38’ ~10k# bumper-hitch camper I pulled from S of St Cloud to Devils Lake. No issue at all w/power. I made that trip @ 75MPH and got ~9MPG. My buddy bought the same camper a couple years later and I pulled it from Detroit Lakes to Devils and it did the same.

I helped a buddy move from Omaha to Bismarck. We packed his Honda Accord and my pickup full of his stuff and put the Accord on a heavy 24’ deckover I borrowed. I ran 80 and it shifted out of 6th once a bit south of Sioux Falls. I can’t recall MPG but I do recall running into a very stiff headwind from Omaha to Fargo and power was never a problem.

My 6.7L is an early 400HP/800Tq, the newer ones are 450-500HP and 1050-1200 Ft-Lb of Tq @ 1600 RPM, right where your running for RPM @ 65-70MPH. I’m not sure what you’d have to hook to any of them for the rear end gearing to actually matter. I’m sure there’s something, obviously they’ll tow much heavier than I have w/mine.

The newer models w/10-spd are supposed to get better mileage, mine has the 6-spd. Most of my towing has been on flat ground on I29, I-94, Hwy 2. It’s less than a half-dozen times the transmission has shifted out of 6th gear when pulling, and it’s never come out of 6th running empty at any speed w/the cruise set in any terrain. Hills, mountains, strong winds, etc, running empty it holds top gear and just adjusts boost as needed.

What are you pulling and what are you currently pulling it with?

 

[Allen]

I have the 2021 F250 with the 10 speed. I get 15 mpg towing my 2006 17.5 ft Lund. Last fall I went to Havasu pulling a 17 ft enclosed trailer. If I remember correctly, I got right around 9.5-11 depending on the stretch of road. Yes. this was generally at 70 to 82 mph.

What actually surprised the hell out of me was how much DEF one burns when pulling. Not so much with the boat, but with that enclosed sail, it was noticeable.

Unless you are planning on pulling a large skidsteer half of the time, don't worry at all about the 3.31 gears.

 

[Bauer]

My 6.7L is an early 400HP/800Tq, the newer ones are 450-500HP and 1050-1200 Ft-Lb of Tq @ 1600 RPM, right where your running for RPM @ 65-70MPH. I’m not sure what you’d have to hook to any of them for the rear end gearing to actually matter. I’m sure there’s something, obviously they’ll tow much heavier than I have w/mine.

The newer models w/10-spd are supposed to get better mileage, mine has the 6-spd. Most of my towing has been on flat ground on I29, I-94, Hwy 2. It’s less than a half-dozen times the transmission has shifted out of 6th gear when pulling, and it’s never come out of 6th running empty at any speed w/the cruise set in any terrain. Hills, mountains, strong winds, etc, running empty it holds top gear and just adjusts boost as needed.

What are you pulling and what are you currently pulling it with?

After I posted, I took to the ol AI google machine and learned quickly that the gearing doesn't much matter anymore with the 10spd transmissions, unless a person starts changing tire sizes which it does help with there. I purchased a new 2025 F250 6.7L on Saturday, driving from Bismarck home to Garrison my fuel mileage climbed the whole way, reached 16.5mpg as I pulled in the yard, I have no doubt that there's room left if I had a longer trip. This being my first diesel, I was impressed to not have to drop a gear (or two) or see my set cruise speed waver on the likes of the Wilton hill.
My primary towing is a 22' fiberglass Yar-Craft, but between helping with sport shows and demo rides and yard work, can pull anything from a 18' aluminum boat, to a 27' pontoon, to a skid steer, so being back in a 3/4 ton has more added benefits than just the diesel. My ecobeast served me well for 50k, especially after coming out of my 2014 F250 6.2L that rode like a jackhammer down the highway, but this new truck is in a whole class of its own.

 

[Allen]

One thing I DO NOT like about the electronic shift 10-speed transmission in the newer F250s is the tendency for the engine/transmission combo to want to "push" the vehicle as you slow down for stop signs or roundabouts. In particular the roundabouts are annoying with the truck wanting to push you through them during the winter months when the road is icy. There's also a fair amount of lag time before it goes into gear, which thwarts rocking the truck to get out of deeper snow, etc. I am guessing that's intentional to help avoid costly transmission repairs, but still...it's slow to want to downshift and that requires more braking power to slow down.

 

[SLE]

Yeh, unless your towing really heavy or through the mountains, these new diesels make so much power and torque you probably won't notice the taller gearing. Took a 22' 6.7 PS to the mountains 3 times this winter to ride sled with a 30ft steel enclosed trailer. Full of gear, propane, tools and sleds, it's a bit over 10k lbs. 3.31 gears didn't care in the slightest. 1,050 ft lbs of torque is like a cheat code with only 10k lbs. Ran as fast as 85mph in MT without any issue, I think it downshifted 3 times the whole trip. Made 9-11 mpg depending on speed and direction of travel. They sure make towing enjoyable.

 

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