Definition of "Giant" and "Monster"???

KDM

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I've been watching some hunting and fishing shows over the weekend and I don't quite think those boys that make them shows know the meaning of "Giant" or "Monster" when it comes to Whitetails, Walleyes, or anything else for that matter. Since when does a 140 inch White Tail or a 7 lb walleye qualify for either or both of those categories. I myself think a 170 or better inch Whitetail or a 13 lb walleye is more appropriate for those identifiers. Apparently, if you say it enough, it makes for a better TV show and the sponsors must cough up more shekels. Do I need to "Get with the times" and lower my standards??
 


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I don't know KDM,sligthly lower,walleyes@ 10lbs are certainly respectful these days and pushing 30"s unless pre spawn,13lb'ers are rare these days,whitetails 170 class,"Huge" and again rare in our area,drop the bar to 150 and let the shooters imbellish a bit,most guyz would'nt know the diff between a 130 class to 150,a 170 class would truely be a monster.

I see the same with sunfish and crappies,"monster slabs that are 12"ers sometime less(not slabs in my book),gills called monster@10's...no dice. good eaters tho.
 
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Watching other people enjoy themselves has never been a thing for me. Iffn I aint the one doing it, I don't want to watch someone else do it, other than football of course, cause I am way to old, out of shape, and talentless.

to each their own, but no thrill here watching a guy shoot a buck, like zero, nill, notta
 

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I generally disdain all outdoor shows except (some) predator hunting. As long as there isn't obviously staged crap, I find it instructional and enjoyable. Of course I'm only watching when I can't be out there myself...
But I agree Johnr: Watching SumDumFuk in Texas shooting a buck on a feeder? :;:lame
 


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I don't really care for most of the hunting fishing shows but the few that I do watch would be Eastmans Outdoors and In-Depth Outdoors. I find those pretty informative.
 

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Might be their own definition of "monster." We can always shrug out shoulders and move on. To each their own. The same argument, usually in the other direction, goes for which fish people should send to the filet table.
 

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I'm with Johnr - I don't watch shows to feel bad that it's them having success on exceptional beasts and not me (a jealousy thing I suppose).

When it comes to shows I like to see/learn techniques/presentations - not to watch some goofball scream "THAT"S A PIG!" and such. If they catch only 20" walleye - or 16" I don't care if they're showing me a new approach.

InDepth Outdoors is my style. Although the way James occasionally talks really sweet/tender to big walleyes when he let's them go ("there you go big girl") kinda wears thin.

I'll forgive him though - cuz he talks mostly about the presentation/technique.
 

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Agreed. James is sometimes corny-but good tips every show and close enough to realtime a guy can fish his locations right after. Almost went to cascade in ID after the big perch they caught.
 

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My name is James. I've whispered a thing or two to some fat girls. I ain't proud.

Truthfully, regardless of the fish, or whether or not it's the first fish of the day, I usually say (when setting the hook) "That's a better fish".
 


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"Giant" and "Monster" are relative terms. What are they compared to? A 33+" Walleye on Big Windy is a Giant in my eyes, But a 27" might be to someone else. Also, a 25" walleye from a very small lake could be a Giant when everything else caught is a 16".
 

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My name is James. I've whispered a thing or two to some fat girls. I ain't proud.

Truthfully, regardless of the fish, or whether or not it's the first fish of the day, I usually say (when setting the hook) "That's a better fish".

Hi James. My name is guywhofishes and I too am guilty of making premature exaggerative remarks about the size of fish at the hookset (or hooksets if I am fishing with Ahab and wags).
 

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I grew up in Wisconsin (see earlier posts) where anything with horns was fair game. I laugh every time someone comments on a little perfect 5x5 (120 at best) hanging in my cabin. Size is relevant but I passed on the biggest whitetail last fall because I had already killed a 7 x 6 with my crossbow. I hope he made it through the winter but backstraps are my trophy now.
 


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I suppose it depends on the body of water it comes out of. I caught a 27" walleye on an 800 acre lake over the weekend, that i would definitely consider a monster from that body of water. Now if that came out of DL or Sak, then it's probably just an average catch.
 

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I caught a 22" eye this past weekend and my 4 yr daughter thought it was the biggest walleye in the world so maybe it's just there iq or mentality lol
 

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I guess for me the term in question, "Giant", refers to the individual animal in comparison to the potential size for the species....not for the person, the body of water, the situation. I appreciate all those things, but there are terms for it such as "personal best", "lake record", etc. I too have suffered KDM's disappointment when I search "Giant walleye" only to see a video of someone reeling in a 25" fish. The term "giant" means exactly that....abnormally large. Not abnormally large for what I usually catch, but abnormally large period. When I think "giant" I wanna see something freak like a 33" walleye or a 200+ whitetail. I know they are rare, but it's 2017 and everyone's a smartphone videographer.
 

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Size is subjective, we've all said 6" is huge at one time! My at the time 4yr old daughter caught a 24" 6# walleye. Even my son will proclaim monster status with that fish. It might just be the fact that we get her to say her fish was "so freaking big".

John I think your comment refers to TV vs taking others out but I have grown vary fond of taking other people out fishing lately. Had 5 kids out a couple weekends ago and didn't get to land a single fish. There were other dad's involved but there to ugly to take a pic of!

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