Dog Release Kits Available

[Rick Tischaefer]

Folks,

The North Dakota Cooperative Fur Harvester Education Program has dog release kits available for postage paid purchase. Having a kit with you while afield with your four-legged hunting partner is a proactive measure to having an enjoyable and successful outing. I can arrange in person training for groups or clubs interested in these techniques and hands on experience. Just let me know and I'll be happy to help. Rick Tischaefer

 

[Allen]

What a great idea!

 

[NG3067]

Had a friend lose his springer S of Bismarck in the River bottoms this spring in a snare. No proper identification on the snare, and I guess if there were my friend would be in jail. He found the dog the next day so the release wouldn’t have been beneficial, but still a good idea to have on hand.

 

[Eatsleeptrap]

Had a friend lose his springer S of Bismarck in the River bottoms this spring in a snare. No proper identification on the snare, and I guess if there were my friend would be in jail. He found the dog the next day so the release wouldn’t have been beneficial, but still a good idea to have on hand.

Since you opened the can of worms instead of just appreciating the work the North Dakota Cooperative Fur Harvester Education Program has done I have several questions. What was your friend hunting in the spring? Seems most seasons are closed, except some trapping and snaring seasons open until March 15. Even if the dog was a little out of shotgun range, which dogs sure can do, he should have been able to find it fast enough to save it. Must have been way out there and couldn't hear whistles or commands. Or, of course, running completely unsupervised and off leash.
Trap tags on trap chains or snares can be hard to see and identify if you do not know what you are looking for. Most of the time it is a copper tag coiled tightly around a chain link or coiled around the snare near the anchor point and covered with dirt. The reason they are coiled tightly, and even crimped, is any other way of attaching it makes them easily removed by the animal when a catch is made, or snagging on other equipment while transporting and setting. Game wardens know what to look for, and they easily uncoil so the information can be recorded. Had your friend found a tag, it may have just been an equipment number, which also would have "kept him out of jail" because physically assaulting numbers is not illegal in ND.

 

[NG3067]

I guess you’d have to take those questions up with him. All all know is what he told me and that there was no ID on the snare, making it illegal, and his dog was snared in mid April, also illegal, if as you said above, the season closed on 15 Mar. So the only can of worms I opened is that a guy was walking his dog irresponsibly on public property, and his dog was caught and killed in an illegally set snare, during a closed season.
I’m perfectly fine with people snaring on private property with permission from the landowner, but am against snares on public property, unless there are signs posted that says snares are in use or something like that so people are aware of the danger.

 

[Eatsleeptrap]

Actually, snares can be set within 50 feet of water until the middle of May for spring beaver, so if your friend did not know what to look for for ID, those copper tags hide easily by wrapped up grass and dirt clods, that snare could have been perfectly legal, and if dogs are leashed as they should be on public land when not hunting, there is ZERO danger. Was a warden called? If a game warden could not find a tag, I will shut up about the tag.
"...but am against snares on public property, unless there are signs posted that says snares are in use or something like that so people are aware of the danger."
There it is. The entire point of your original post was garnering sympathy and steering people toward your agenda.
Unleashed dogs running unsupervised can be a danger to themselves, people, and wildlife. Do people who let their dogs run unleashed on public land have to post signs warning people that dogs are running unleashed?

 

[NG3067]

Im positive the snare didn’t have a tag on it, and I’ll find out if it was 50’ from the river and report back to you. My friend was wrong because he had his dog off a leash on public property. Buy maybe, just maybe the guy who had the snare was also wrong. I didn’t have an agenda, but you just gave me one.

 

[WormWiggler]

Does everything have to devolve into a purse fight?

 

[Kurtr]

Sad deal. Prime example to have your dog under control at all times and to do leash work so they know not to pull when they feel pressure.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Dog on a leash on public property outside of city limits? Thats not very fun for the dog...

 

[Kurtr]

Dog on a leash on public property outside of city limits? Thats not very fun for the dog...

Dont have to be on a leash to be under control(most arnt just go to the worst place in the world a dog park to vet that) but i bet the dog would have had more fun being on a leash and alive........

Also humans like to think they know whats fun by placing what would be fun to them quit treating dogs like humans would be a great start for most owners

 

[NG3067]

Eatsleeptrap, as promised, talked to my friend and snare was over 100’ from water. So to recap for you, dog was being walked irresponsibly on public land and was killed by an illegal snare during a closed season. This is not a purse fight, I just didn’t appreciate the lecture from eatsleeptrap.

 

[scrotcaster]

Could it be possible that both parties were in the wrong and neither wish that the dog would have died? Sorry to your friend for the loss of his dog. I hope at least it can be a teachable moment for both so that it doesn't happen again and corrective actions be taken on both sides.

 

[Obi-Wan]

Could it be possible that both parties were in the wrong and neither wish that the dog would have died? Sorry to your friend for the loss of his dog. I hope at least it can be a teachable moment for both so that it doesn't happen again and corrective actions be taken on both sides.

I am willing to be only one party will learn from this as the other most likely doesn't know or possibly doesn't care.

 

[Eatsleeptrap]

Eatsleeptrap, as promised, talked to my friend and snare was over 100’ from water. So to recap for you, dog was being walked irresponsibly on public land and was killed by an illegal snare during a closed season. This is not a purse fight, I just didn’t appreciate the lecture from eatsleeptrap.

Just trying to get some answers and possibly "keep your friend out of jail". I have traps from trapping out of state that have two ID tags on them. They are hard to see when full of dirt after moving from area to area, so you slap another on, then when you're done at home and power wash them, there are two tags. They are hard to spot at certain times and conditions, dark and dirty. Snares are the same way. Your friend should have called a game warden IMMEDIATLY. The warden probably would have found more snares, and might have set a few toys of his own to try and find the poacher, which is exactly what the person was if the snares were illegal.