Established Trails

[Enslow]

I don't recall saying "rancher". Either way, trespass is trespass, regardless of intentions or reasons, in the eyes of law, with few exceptions.

Wrong it is only tresspassing if a landowner was to press charges for shooting a coyote. I guarantee that i never get into trouble for shooting at a coyote wether i hit him or miss him.

 

[Davy Crockett]

Now that's service, Before I could finish typing my question it was answered.

 

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Wrong it is only tresspassing if a landowner was to press charges for shooting a coyote. I guarantee that i never get into trouble for shooting at a coyote wether i hit him or miss him.

Good for you. It's not worth it to me to find out for a coyote. And yes, it is still trespassing. You might as well shoot a deer on posted land and say "I wasn't trespassing. He never pressed charges because I wasn't caught". And even if 100% of landowners will let you on to hunt coyotes, if it's posted, you still have to ask.

 

[Enslow]

Good for you. It's not worth it to me to find out for a coyote. And yes, it is still trespassing. You might as well shoot a deer on posted land and say "I wasn't trespassing. He never pressed charges because I wasn't caught". And even if 100% of landowners will let you on to hunt coyotes, if it's posted, you still have to ask.

This is soooo dumb... We are talking about shooting at a coyote out the pickup window. Live a little. Hell in montana you dont even need a licence to shoot a coyote.

 

[Sluggo]

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Now I'm confused, Say just for instance I am deer hunting and I see a gravel pit out in the middle of a section of land that is not posted, No gates, no fence, just a road leading to a gravel pit. Is there a law that says I can't drive down the road to the gravel pit ?

I certainly can relate to your confusion. In your example, just because there is a trail leading to that gravel pit does not mean you can drive down it. You are basically traveling on private property and IF the land owner wanted to get you ticketed for trespassing, I believe law enforcement would be on his side. Now, if the landowner did not want you to drive down that trail, I think most would put up a no trespassing sign, but it doesn't sound like they have to. Apparently section lines have an easement on them which allows us non-landowners to travel down whereas there is no easement on that trail to the gravel pit so that is basically the landowners private trail. This is just my understanding on what was explained to me.

 

[deleted member]

Huh? If it ain't posted, why would you get in trouble? This is nd we are talking about right?

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If it ain't posted, I can walk across the field without a trail, ride my atv or snowmobile without a trail, drive into the field to set up and pick up decoys, retrieve a dead deer, etc.... I can certainly drive down an established trail on the same unposted property right.

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Game warden is either wrong or you guys had a miscommunication about whether the land in question was posted or unposted

 

[lunkerslayer]

As long as the land is not posted with posted signs no further than 880yd or at every gate the land is open to public hunting. If the farmer does see you on his property the only thing he can do is ask you to leave, non criminal act to trespasser. If you can access wet land during winter time to to hunt muskrat it is legal but must leave through the same area (walking) through ROW.

 

[Sluggo]

Huh? If it ain't posted, why would you get in trouble? This is nd we are talking about right?

If it ain't posted, I can walk across the field without a trail, ride my atv or snowmobile without a trail, drive into the field to set up and pick up decoys, retrieve a dead deer, etc.... I can certainly drive down an established trail on the same unposted property right.

Game warden is either wrong or you guys had a miscommunication about whether the land in question was posted or unposted

Purty sure there is a different set of rules regarding walking versus driving. I have no idea what the rules are for ATV and snowmobile travel, might be different than trucks too.

 

[lunkerslayer]

Purty sure there is a different set of rules regarding walking versus driving. I have no idea what the rules are for ATV and snowmobile travel, might be different than trucks too.

Yes the only way you can legally drive onto public or open private hunting land is to retrieve a downed animal, decoys, or etc. Also you must leave in the same path as you came into

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You can drive a vehicle on posted land if you have permission to be on his land example would be checking a trap line with a gun in the vehicle.

 

[deleted member]

You can drive on an established trail on unposted property unless told to leave.
I am certain of this.

 

[raider]

i stay off property i'm not wanted on, legal or not... guess i'm boring like that...

 

[deleted member]

Tell me what law would prevent it.

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Ya. Me too. Ya know how I know I'm not wanted? There is a poster that says "no hunting and/or trespassing ". Wtf?

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Why does this discussion always turn into a shit show? Not once have I advocated going on land where you are not wanted or suggested someone else do the same.

 

[Kurtr]

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Now I'm confused, Say just for instance I am deer hunting and I see a gravel pit out in the middle of a section of land that is not posted, No gates, no fence, just a road leading to a gravel pit. Is there a law that says I can't drive down the road to the gravel pit ?

So let me muddy the waters concerning a gravel pit. If it is still active under msha regulations you can't enter it with out the proper safety protocol if they would catch the owner would get a fine and a pretty substantial one. That's why all of our active pits have sign stating such so the liability is now on the person who entered the pit. There are a lot of pits that just have gravel piled in them that are active due to the way regulations read. Now this is probably a one in a million scenario.

 

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Why does this discussion always turn into a shit show? .

Well, I can't speak for these other yahoos but sometimes I just get a wild hair up my ass and just want to watch the world burn.

 

[NDSportsman]

Not sure why we need to hash this over every year. It's pretty damn simple and straight forward. Unless a section line has been closed by the township board, which rarely ever happens, it is open for travel. Doesn't matter if it has an established trail. Doesn't matter if some farmer dug it up. Doesn't matter if it's a 6' tall corn field. Doesn't matter if it's fenced. No one can legally block a section line that has not been closed by the township. You can bet your ass most landowners know the law and will try anything they can to keep people from land they have a legal right to access. They count on people not knowing their rights to get away with it. Educate yourself and don't be buffaloed by an asshole!

 

[Tommyboy]

Not sure why we need to hash this over every year. It's pretty damn simple and straight forward. Unless a section line has been closed by the township board, which rarely ever happens, it is open for travel. Doesn't matter if it has an established trail. Doesn't matter if some farmer dug it up. Doesn't matter if it's a 6' tall corn field. Doesn't matter if it's fenced. No one can legally block a section line that has not been closed by the township. You can bet your ass most landowners know the law and will try anything they can to keep people from land they have a legal right to access. They count on people not knowing their rights to get away with it. Educate yourself and don't be buffaloed by an asshole!

I would just rather find another section line to go down instead of mowing down some guys crop, but that's just me. Apparently there are only a few of "me" left around. There is a fine line between being an asshole and being educated asshole. Why do you think more and more land gets posted up? If I had land, I would post it tighter than a nuns pussy to keep asshats off! Next thing you know, there will be a law suit because of some hunter fell in a hole on non posted land and broke his foot. Its the farmers fault right?

 

[deleted member]

No. It's not actually the farmers fault in that case and he can't be sued.

 

[3Roosters]

Equip one of your drones with a weapon and you could zoom in on posted LAND(not posted air space) and knock down a deer and then legally go in to retrieve that downed deer on posted land.:;:stirthepot:;:howdy

 

[fullrut]

Keep in mind, just because a road is on a map that doesn't qualify it as open for travel. My driveway branches off a section line that dead ends due to lack of a river crossing. My driveway goes through my yard and continues on to two different neighbor's properties. It's generations old agreement with the neighbors to allow them access to their farm land without having to travel around two sections. Yes, mine is posted, and there an no easements on my property.

It's not bad in the winter, but spring and summer the nosy tourists and booze cruisers gets annoying. Had a FedEx delivery truck this summer tear the hell out of my yard and another half mile of dirt road. Must have been following a GPS route. He didn't deliver to me or the neighbor.

 

[guywhofishes]

Well, I can't speak for these other yahoos but sometimes I just get a wild hair up my ass and just want to watch the world burn.

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