Fargo DU Banquet: Anyone going?

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neither of them really do anything spectacular. Seems the wild sheep foundation has a good method and some of the mule deer chapters. The smaller the better as it is harder to hide where money is going and you can trace results. There are lots of local wild life clubs that do more for resident people than any national org. will try to find the place that shows how much money is spent on admin costs and how much goes to the field. Kind of like wounded warrior they pull at your heart strings and dont do shit for vets
 


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neither of them really do anything spectacular. Seems the wild sheep foundation has a good method and some of the mule deer chapters. The smaller the better as it is harder to hide where money is going and you can trace results. There are lots of local wild life clubs that do more for resident people than any national org. will try to find the place that shows how much money is spent on admin costs and how much goes to the field. Kind of like wounded warrior they pull at your heart strings and dont do shit for vets

I would agree with you, especially after working for one such org firsthand. However, PF is a big exception. They are basically "Local" when it comes to fundraising. 100 percent of what is raised at a banquet stays for local projects. No other org that I know of can say that.

So you'd back a state-focused waterfowl organization if you could easily track the dollars and knew exactly where your donations went to?
 

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I do like PF's "business" model much more than DU. The big change that needs to happen, if they donate millet,etc to farmers, they need to leave the lands open to hunt to at least kids. A lot of the local guys around my hometown plant this seed, then post the dickens out of the land. That's about my only complaint with PF. I won't get started on DU.
 

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I would agree with you, especially after working for one such org firsthand. However, PF is a big exception. They are basically "Local" when it comes to fundraising. 100 percent of what is raised at a banquet stays for local projects. No other org that I know of can say that.

So you'd back a state-focused waterfowl organization if you could easily track the dollars and knew exactly where your donations went to?

Yep i would feel much better even better yet if i get to help with the projects.

I have a dream to some day hunt a sheep i cant be out there to help with the projects but they do a good job of showing results and keeping everything in the open. I have become enamored with western big game hunting so most of my dollars will go that way
 


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perpetuial easments and now oil is down how would have the state funded it? DU is just a good ol boys political org to set up sweet hunting camps for them selves. Sprinkle in a few things here and there for the public and make it look good. To bad good concept ruined by greedy high class duck hunters

Big difference between high class and wealth IMHO Kurtie Lertie.
 

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Big difference between high class and wealth IMHO Kurtie Lertie.

not really.... high class, rich, wealth all mean the same in the urban dictionary. Another classification could be the people who shoot over and unders once a year
 

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You know damn right what I meant. Never understood the attraction to an O/U. Most are missing missing a trigger except Merkels.

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You know damn right what I meant. Never understood the attraction to an O/U. Most are missing missing a trigger except Merkels.


haha i know but some one has to give you some shitte. We have merkels in mobridge here it is a grocery store though
 


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That's too freakn' cool. That's the way the West should damn be IMHO. Can you get one under six grand?
 

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I've never understood the land grabbing argument. If I remember correctly that money had to be used in state. And DU can't buy land here. Nor can any other corporation buy ag land. (Which is bs IMO)

To simply set the record straight with a few facts (if anyone is interested in actual facts)

Du can buy land here like any other nonprofit. they just have to go thru the approval process the state requires and abide by the guidelines the state sets forth.

Perhaps had they not tried screwing the state rules over as they have their members there would be DU purchases here in the state.

And before the typical players start spouting off about the denials of the Natural Areas Aquisition committee, and how it is all ag......ya da ya da ya da, do a little historic research and see how many sales have been approved verses denied by the governor.

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See, I have a feeling there are a lot of guys like you. Which makes me seriously think that the North Dakota Waterfowl Association concept has a shot.

Why donl;t any of these wildlife orgs have a structure like some of the ag orgs that are grass roots driven?

Members come to an annual state convention and bring forth resolutions that drive the ideological views and actions of the org? Dues paying members actually control the org. instead of wealthy donors that gather in private hunting resorts.
 

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Your little snark in the parenthesis is a good example of why people sometimes would like to kick you in the buttocks. That's a fact!:)
 

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I'm guessing, but from what I knew about the Heritage Fund when it was started, an org set up like this would have a bit of credibility to apply for grants that the local members of an org accountable to them might bring forth for funding.

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Your little snark in the parenthesis is a good example of why people sometimes would like to kick you in the buttocks. That's a fact!:)

Maybe if people donl;t like the "snark", a couple minutes on the same internet they are posting on can get them a few facts to get things kinda right.

My apologizes to those that may have just exited their safe space to read this thread and have been traumatized by the callousness of my snarky comment. Tomorrow will be a better day.
 


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Why donl;t any of these wildlife orgs have a structure like some of the ag orgs that are grass roots driven?

Members come to an annual state convention and bring forth resolutions that drive the ideological views and actions of the org? Dues paying members actually control the org. instead of wealthy donors that gather in private hunting resorts.

Sweet. I just got the first bulletpoint for the NDWA Business Plan's executive summary.

Keep 'em coming! If everyone puts in their 2 cents, maybe we can make something nearly everyone will support.
 

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Duck,

If you are going to start ANOTHER org (ND Waterfowl Association) what you need to know is volunteerism isn't what it used to be. Your best and brightest will take one step back or let some bad actor take that one step forward. You cannot let that happen.

Did you know that the ND wildlife federation used to have almost 10,000 members? A couple years ago during the baiting Bill at the Capitol they claimed 1300 but we all know it is well below that.

What has happened is bad actors got themselves elected and used the federation as a vehicle to drive their own agenda.

The ND Wildlife Federation has their annual every January. Real sportsmen need to go there enmass and vote the rascals out.

There's my two cents. You don't need to start another sportsmens org. However, if you do, don't become an affiliate of the NDWF. The last thing you need is those guys standing up at the legislature saying they represent you and tens of thousands of ND sportsmen. They have become a surrogate of the fed/gov.
 


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