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<blockquote data-quote="NPO_Aaron" data-source="post: 358942" data-attributes="member: 214"><p>Hey bravo, I like the passion, however, I challenge you to produce a piece of science that excludes speculative language. "May" is a hypothesis, it isn't science. A ban on baiting using the CURRENT data is not one based on science, it's based on speculation. </p><p>Just note that I said current, because I believe that if there were ever studies done that show a definitive increase in CWD, above the rate of natural spread, that happened as a result of baiting, I would instantly call for it to be done.</p><p>I have only ever seen one study that tested transmitting CWD through saliva and in that study they orally injected fawns with 50ml of saliva from infected deer and they did transmit cwd. But where in baiting deer do you see deer literally drinking measurable amounts of saliva, it just doesn't happen.</p><p>If you have a free minute, check out this document. It was edited by 2 PHD and 2 DVM and PHD. It's not made by slouches like myself.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://texasdeerassociation.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/CURRENT-SCIENTIFIC-KNOWLEDGE-ABOUT-CWD.pdf" target="_blank">https://texasdeerassociation.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/CURRENT-SCIENTIFIC-KNOWLEDGE-ABOUT-CWD.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>I have spent a lot of time researching both sides because I want to know exactly what the consequences of my actions would be. Currently, the actual, published science shows no statistical significance of if baiting affects CWD negatively or positively.</p><p></p><p>Finally, I would love to know what makes the bills origin dubious? It was created out of the frustration of being completely ignored and disregarded by the game and fish. I am 95% in support of the game and fish and honestly, I am quite happy with how they manage our resource. However, I do not agree with regulations being made based on theories, especially when those regulations play a roll in gatekeeping the outdoors to differently-able bodied people.</p><p>I'm not being confrontational. I have no desire to argue things, just share information. If you can give me some studies that tell me I am incorrect, I will change my mind. I care about our resource and maintaining it for my children just as much as anyone else. All I want is one piece of evidence that says baiting certainly increases the rate at which CWD spread.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NPO_Aaron, post: 358942, member: 214"] Hey bravo, I like the passion, however, I challenge you to produce a piece of science that excludes speculative language. "May" is a hypothesis, it isn't science. A ban on baiting using the CURRENT data is not one based on science, it's based on speculation. Just note that I said current, because I believe that if there were ever studies done that show a definitive increase in CWD, above the rate of natural spread, that happened as a result of baiting, I would instantly call for it to be done. I have only ever seen one study that tested transmitting CWD through saliva and in that study they orally injected fawns with 50ml of saliva from infected deer and they did transmit cwd. But where in baiting deer do you see deer literally drinking measurable amounts of saliva, it just doesn't happen. If you have a free minute, check out this document. It was edited by 2 PHD and 2 DVM and PHD. It's not made by slouches like myself. [URL]https://texasdeerassociation.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/CURRENT-SCIENTIFIC-KNOWLEDGE-ABOUT-CWD.pdf[/URL] I have spent a lot of time researching both sides because I want to know exactly what the consequences of my actions would be. Currently, the actual, published science shows no statistical significance of if baiting affects CWD negatively or positively. Finally, I would love to know what makes the bills origin dubious? It was created out of the frustration of being completely ignored and disregarded by the game and fish. I am 95% in support of the game and fish and honestly, I am quite happy with how they manage our resource. However, I do not agree with regulations being made based on theories, especially when those regulations play a roll in gatekeeping the outdoors to differently-able bodied people. I'm not being confrontational. I have no desire to argue things, just share information. If you can give me some studies that tell me I am incorrect, I will change my mind. I care about our resource and maintaining it for my children just as much as anyone else. All I want is one piece of evidence that says baiting certainly increases the rate at which CWD spread. [/QUOTE]
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