Mandan Data center pushback

[Obi-Wan]

Right, that is the correct way to prevent this. But just saying "me no want" is not effective, not effective at all.

whether or not true, I heard that the commissioners for Oliver County signed NDA's with the Data Center company and then voted to approve the zoning change against the wishes of many of the residents for the one going up W of Center ND

 

[Duckslayer100]

so many emotional responses when it comes to datacenters. That piece of land in mandan is pretty big, it wont all be industrial buildings, likely they bought enough land intentionally to provide a buffer to reduce sound pollution to neighboring residents. They could easily require them to plant enough trees etc to make it aesthetically pleasing for residents, or even maintain/donate part of the grounds as park/natural areas for people to enjoy.

I think where the emotion comes in is how exceedingly and uniquely FAST these data centers occur. They are massive, multi-billion-dollar projects that, in the construction world, move at lightning speed.

The one in Harwood is a good example. We heard about it publicly in, what, June/July of last year? And they were breaking ground already in September! That's the part that is crazy. There were LOADS of closed-door meetings to line everything up, and by the time we the public hear about it, it's too late. There was no stopping it. The public comment period was a joke. It was signed, sealed and delivered.

In the meantime, there are giant milking operations proposed in Hillsboro and Wahpeton that have been talked about for over two years at this point, and are STILL going through permitting and whatnot to start construction.

Whether you like data centers or hate them, you can't deny that they embody the definition of being "rammed down your throat" when compared to other similar projects.

And until we have a real say in it, and signed certainty (as in a signed contract) stating we will NOT be impacted with increased utility bills, etc., I will remain highly, highly skeptical.

 

[ndlongshot]

Whos the end customer? It has to be the government. I hope you all love a surveillance state.

There is no way the private sector is funding this amount of capital infrastructure with no obvious customer base.

 

[Jiffy]

Elon himself is the main one funding the debacle/eyesore down in E-town.

He’s been in town a couple times.

Or so I’ve heard. I’d say he probably could swing it if he wanted