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March 29 is Vietnam day.

For the last few years i have posted this date with some added stuff and then had a short walk around the block in the town I live in with some others.

However. I came home in October of 1970 at the age of 22. It has now been 55 years, and I am now 78.
Been a long, long time and not sure why I posted this after all these years. It is time to move on.

I was in during Nixons time in the white house. He was bringing troops home. I did apply for a two month drop to come home and i was granted that. No one knew I was coming home. I walk into the kitchen of the house I grew up in. My mother was there. Shortly dad came in, shook my hand for maybe the second and last time and they were happy I was home. It was a good surprise for them.

Saturday came, put my field jacket on and went to the local bar. Cars were park outside. When I went in there were about 12-14 people, my age, that i knew and they knew me playing a game with cards at one table. Made eye contact for a few seconds, and then they went back to playing cards. Nothing said and I thought maybe hello. Been gone 22 months.

At the bar there was a guy sleeping, so i went and sat by him, paid for a beer. He was also in Nam and came home about two months before me. I knew him and he knew me. About the second or third beer he woke up, stare at me and then tore my e-5 strips off my left arm and threw on the floor. What the hell. As i bent down to pick up he tore the strips off my right arm. Pick both of them up. He looks at me and said, "DB forget it, nobody cares". He knew why i wore that jacket that evening. I assume his welcome home was not as he thought it would be either. I drank a few more beers. Consider going over to the table and introduce myself. But instead, I got another beer, paid for it and went out to the car. Drove home.

Okay, i did my thing, as many did before me and after me, nothing or anything special, did what i was trained to do. After that day, I thought very little of my time over there. I now needed to find a mate, a job and raise a family. I had my whole future to look forward to. It was all behind me.

Then the gulf wars started. I was in Brainard with two friends watching TV and drinking old mill. About 6 desert storm troops came wearing their desert storm uniforms in an airport. All the people in the airport started clapping. The soldiers all got big smiles on their face and the words were thanks for your service. I knew the difference from my time serving and the current time.

By keeping it alive each year I was trying to promote the time we serve there. Maybe jealous but we did not lose that conflict; this country lost it. What could one expect from a bunch of potheads. Not enough of us drinking old mill to win. It was steel, rusty cans i believe Black Label, but name was rusted off. Needed a church key to open.

The VA needed some stuff from me a few years ago and I had a Veteran Service Officer help me. He then asked me to write down my time overseas for a project he was working on. I finally got that done, about 7 pages on the computer. Maybe, later I can mention a couple of those memories I experienced. However, I am proud of that time, and glad I went and any issues I had, have been taken care of a long time ago. It is all good and people wish me a thankful for my services. Welcome home would be better. db
 


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I'm definitely not a wordsmith. I appreciate what you did in service of our country. As a young man, you were asked (told) to fight for what your country believed was right. There are rights and wrongs on both sides of every conflict. I would salute you, or any other soldier, if I was worthy of doing so. The best I can offer is "Welcome home."
 

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My hat is off to you and all service men and women. Current and former. Thank you for your service. All veterans deserve better. I truly appreciate all that you have done. Welcome Home!
 


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Welcome home my friend. A sincere thank you from one Veteran to another Veteran. Any and all veterans have my respect and gratitude no matter the era/conflict they have served in. May all veterans find peace within themselves in/about the time they served their country from any era/conflict no matter what others say and how they acted to the veterans
 

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March 29 is Vietnam day.

For the last few years i have posted this date with some added stuff and then had a short walk around the block in the town I live in with some others.

However. I came home in October of 1970 at the age of 22. It has now been 55 years, and I am now 78.
Been a long, long time and not sure why I posted this after all these years. It is time to move on.

I was in during Nixons time in the white house. He was bringing troops home. I did apply for a two month drop to come home and i was granted that. No one knew I was coming home. I walk into the kitchen of the house I grew up in. My mother was there. Shortly dad came in, shook my hand for maybe the second and last time and they were happy I was home. It was a good surprise for them.

Saturday came, put my field jacket on and went to the local bar. Cars were park outside. When I went in there were about 12-14 people, my age, that i knew and they knew me playing a game with cards at one table. Made eye contact for a few seconds, and then they went back to playing cards. Nothing said and I thought maybe hello. Been gone 22 months.

At the bar there was a guy sleeping, so i went and sat by him, paid for a beer. He was also in Nam and came home about two months before me. I knew him and he knew me. About the second or third beer he woke up, stare at me and then tore my e-5 strips off my left arm and threw on the floor. What the hell. As i bent down to pick up he tore the strips off my right arm. Pick both of them up. He looks at me and said, "DB forget it, nobody cares". He knew why i wore that jacket that evening. I assume his welcome home was not as he thought it would be either. I drank a few more beers. Consider going over to the table and introduce myself. But instead, I got another beer, paid for it and went out to the car. Drove home.

Okay, i did my thing, as many did before me and after me, nothing or anything special, did what i was trained to do. After that day, I thought very little of my time over there. I now needed to find a mate, a job and raise a family. I had my whole future to look forward to. It was all behind me.

Then the gulf wars started. I was in Brainard with two friends watching TV and drinking old mill. About 6 desert storm troops came wearing their desert storm uniforms in an airport. All the people in the airport started clapping. The soldiers all got big smiles on their face and the words were thanks for your service. I knew the difference from my time serving and the current time.

By keeping it alive each year I was trying to promote the time we serve there. Maybe jealous but we did not lose that conflict; this country lost it. What could one expect from a bunch of potheads. Not enough of us drinking old mill to win. It was steel, rusty cans i believe Black Label, but name was rusted off. Needed a church key to open.

The VA needed some stuff from me a few years ago and I had a Veteran Service Officer help me. He then asked me to write down my time overseas for a project he was working on. I finally got that done, about 7 pages on the computer. Maybe, later I can mention a couple of those memories I experienced. However, I am proud of that time, and glad I went and any issues I had, have been taken care of a long time ago. It is all good and people wish me a thankful for my services. Welcome home would be better. db
Welcome home DB!

I was not alive at this time and as a younger person it truly emotionally hurts hearing how the vietnam vets were treated when returning home. Nobody should have to go through that for following orders and fighting for their country. Your service is truly appreciated and you would have been drinking on me that night.

As much as it probably hurts to talk about i truly do appreciate hearing all aspects of what has taken place in the past and even currently as I never joined the service, part of me wishes is did(to old now). I however am not sure i would have made it due to not being very mature until an older age. Hearing the stories of good and bad realy makes me appreciate what the vets have done for our country and also makes me envious of the friendships that came from their service. Its a friendship i will never experiance. Try and look at the positives and please post whatever your willing because it does really help younger generations out. I talk to my kids about experiances you and others on here have had so they to can try understand what it was like and to make sure it NEVER happens again.

Thank you and all vets and current members of our military for serving. I have what i have because of you/them!
 

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March 29 is Vietnam day.

For the last few years i have posted this date with some added stuff and then had a short walk around the block in the town I live in with some others.

However. I came home in October of 1970 at the age of 22. It has now been 55 years, and I am now 78.
Been a long, long time and not sure why I posted this after all these years. It is time to move on.

I was in during Nixons time in the white house. He was bringing troops home. I did apply for a two month drop to come home and i was granted that. No one knew I was coming home. I walk into the kitchen of the house I grew up in. My mother was there. Shortly dad came in, shook my hand for maybe the second and last time and they were happy I was home. It was a good surprise for them.

Saturday came, put my field jacket on and went to the local bar. Cars were park outside. When I went in there were about 12-14 people, my age, that i knew and they knew me playing a game with cards at one table. Made eye contact for a few seconds, and then they went back to playing cards. Nothing said and I thought maybe hello. Been gone 22 months.

At the bar there was a guy sleeping, so i went and sat by him, paid for a beer. He was also in Nam and came home about two months before me. I knew him and he knew me. About the second or third beer he woke up, stare at me and then tore my e-5 strips off my left arm and threw on the floor. What the hell. As i bent down to pick up he tore the strips off my right arm. Pick both of them up. He looks at me and said, "DB forget it, nobody cares". He knew why i wore that jacket that evening. I assume his welcome home was not as he thought it would be either. I drank a few more beers. Consider going over to the table and introduce myself. But instead, I got another beer, paid for it and went out to the car. Drove home.

Okay, i did my thing, as many did before me and after me, nothing or anything special, did what i was trained to do. After that day, I thought very little of my time over there. I now needed to find a mate, a job and raise a family. I had my whole future to look forward to. It was all behind me.

Then the gulf wars started. I was in Brainard with two friends watching TV and drinking old mill. About 6 desert storm troops came wearing their desert storm uniforms in an airport. All the people in the airport started clapping. The soldiers all got big smiles on their face and the words were thanks for your service. I knew the difference from my time serving and the current time.

By keeping it alive each year I was trying to promote the time we serve there. Maybe jealous but we did not lose that conflict; this country lost it. What could one expect from a bunch of potheads. Not enough of us drinking old mill to win. It was steel, rusty cans i believe Black Label, but name was rusted off. Needed a church key to open.

The VA needed some stuff from me a few years ago and I had a Veteran Service Officer help me. He then asked me to write down my time overseas for a project he was working on. I finally got that done, about 7 pages on the computer. Maybe, later I can mention a couple of those memories I experienced. However, I am proud of that time, and glad I went and any issues I had, have been taken care of a long time ago. It is all good and people wish me a thankful for my services. Welcome home would be better. db
Every year you have a post about Vietnam day. But you never say what town you go to. I'm sure there are people on here that would take the time to come have a drink with you and a bite to eat. But they and we can't because you never mention the town.


Thank you for your service.
 


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First off, thank you for your service Db. You and your Vietnam brothers got a shit deal. You and your fellow troopers were given a bum rap by those who sent you there and by those who are unable to comprehend what you and your brothers placed upon the alter of sacrifice. I'm here to tell you, you're not alone. I know what it is to believe in what you are doing and have a completely different reality dropped on your head by the same people you thought had your back. I spent 6 months in Afghanistan in '07 killing and trying not to get killed. Lost irreplacable time from watching my daughter growing up, lost irreplacable time with my wife, watched my brothers in arms fall, and had a good portion of what I was brought up to believe ripped away by politics. Watched the same people who claimed to be my advocates in government give the whole fuckin' shebang back to the very booger eating SOB's that were killing my brothers and trying to do the same to me. I understand where you were and where you are now as I am there as well. We didn't lose that war either. We weren't allowed to win. It's SOP for this country if you look at history and it makes me want to puke. All of that is irrelevent in the quiet times all combat vets endure. What's relevent IMO, is to ensure that we, the survivors, HONOR our bretheren. We live for them. We remember them. We teach the younger generation the lessons we learned. Then, and only then, can we go and meet our brothers again with our heads held high, without shame, without disgrace, and with full knowledge that WE DID THE BEST WE COULD!! God Bless!!
 

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Thank You For Your Service, each and everyone of you past and present that served our country. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
 

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Welcome home, DB and thanks to both of you, DB and KDM, for your service. My respect for all veterans is equal. The way I look at it is you all fought for the US by following orders. If politicians or morons, I repeat myself, screwed up the results, that’s on them.
Would love to buy you both a beer if ever our paths cross.
 

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`Thanks everyone for the kind words. KDM, I have read your post a number of times. Different time and different war than me. I always felt, at least at the beginning due to 9/11, there was a reason for it all. Not sure, but I think we just stay too long. I am sure I will read it a few more times. It hit home for me.

Vietnam, not sure why we got involve. Never knew a reason. The French were there and left in the fifties. Then that 5-star general from WW2 started getting us involve. Kennedy added to it and with the draft, LBJ had 1000s of young men and women at his call to send. And he sent them. The media with Walter Cronkite, one could see all the crap at 5:30 every evening.

Drugs were common. Every night the chopper came with a pallet of pop and beer. $3 for a case of either. At times a group of soldiers would leave the post in the middle of the night. Not sure where they went but would come back in a few hours with all kinds of stuff to manufacture.

I grew up as a teenager in the sixties. Then to college. During that time never thought about Vietnam. It was a time of muscle cars and young ladies looking for the same thing us boys were looking for. A trip down Boardway in Fargo and the stage was set.

But as the plane was approaching Nam, I realize what the hell am I doing here. Finally, i was scared about what was to happen. If I had listened to my mother and stayed in school, I could be having a beer with some ladies right now. Now what, I did not know.

One lessdog. In my travels, Rolla was a friendly town to visit, and my brand is old mill if you were wondering. db-2
 


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SSG Rosado was a Vietnam veteran in our platoon when we deployed from Germany to SW Asia during Desert Shield/Storm in November 1991. A Puerto Rican Mets fan from Brooklyn. He had his 20 and was just finishing out his last reenlistment. He wasn't much for being in garrison, he liked being out in the field. When we left the port in Saudi and headed out in the desert northeast of Hafar Al Batin, he kind of became a rock. The only guy who had been there and done that. When we started the air war and Saddam started throwing SCUD's at us, he was as steady as you could be. When the ground war started, same. Months of wading through unexploded ordinance blowing up Iraqi equipment he was unshakable. When we got back to Germany and our wives, families and even the damn German citizens welcomed us home with beer tents, huge signs and parties, he did not know how to act. It was so obviously uncomfortable, maybe even painful for him.
He deserved better the first time around. You all deserved better. Nothing we can do about it now except say it, and say welcome home brother and thank you for your service.
 

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You know how I feel about you DB.

I/We wish you'd fucking post more than once a year. If you ignore "one" commie sympathizer on here; you're probably ignoring "ten": Current trouble at this time: You have to zap every one of them.

Even some of the "good guys" are fucking around.

Don't feed the stray cats. Instead "ignore"/visualize:

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That is all.
 

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Thank you for your service and for sharing your experiences @db-2 and @KDM . Your sacrifices are very much acknowledged and appreciated by this man.
 
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I was a section chief on a 107-howitzer shooting a 175 mm bullet. We shot every single day and most of the time around 200 rounds. Firing rate of about 20 rounds per hour. Most of the shooting was at night. 99% of those rounds I had no idea what we were shooting at. They shot rockets, mortars and small arm back at us but nowhere as often. And for some it was not good.

About twice a month we would get an inspection by someone from the rear. They had sat up gun 1 as the place to inspect but one day a E-7 said they were going to come to my gun. I told the troops about this. Mention that they all should shave and dress in decent cloths for the inspections.

Morning came. I look over my troops. A few forgot to shave and for some they found the worse cloths to wear. I told them looking good, mighty fine. Reported to the one-star general. Said my gunner, a Corporal Gannon will take you around the gun.

At some point the General told Gannon we need to store our ammo different. The corporal said we try that, and it did not work, and he was right. It appears, the General was not going to have a corporal tell him that and for some reason my corporal would not give up on it.
After a bit, I did step in between them to move the inspection along. Should have push the ignore button. But then the General said some things about my Corporal. The words maybe were not that bad, but he started to laugh and so did the E-7.

No way was I going to leave that as it was. the inspection was over, and they were to leave. Gatter my troops, call them to attention and then dismiss. Left the E-7 and General to play with themselves.

That afternoon the battery clerk came and told me to report to the command bunker and bring my M-16 with me. About 5 higher ranking than what i was. They took my M-16 from me, relieve me of my command and then took my R&R away. Had $600 and was on my way to Bangkok. A guy told me who had gone there what $600 would get me. For the moment that became only a vision.

And then they got on me like a whip dog in a corner. After a few minutes that it was enough for me and i got up to leave. A new boot LT holler at me, as I was leaving, to spit shine my boots by evening. Glad he said that as all the angry I was storing in my body left. Where the hell was I to find a can of shoe polish out here.

The next day the clerk came and seen me. Said they were talking about giving me the rank of private, a dishonorable discharge for in subornation in a war zone, Silly me i thought we were in a conflict not a war. And he said they did mention Leavenworth. Maybe i would have Peltier as a cell mate.
And for what. I did voluntary for the draft and for Vietnam. A few weeks before this the captain call a formation of all the troops and pin a medal with a green ribbon on it on me. At the time meant nothing to me as I had no idea why.

I thought. First concern was how I could still get my R&R, then the disgrace I will bring to my family if this happens. For me, for lack of a better word and the seriousness of this (58,000 some had died) this whole thing had no honor, and no way could we win. dB
 


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