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<blockquote data-quote="KDM" data-source="post: 84094" data-attributes="member: 314"><p>Coyote Hunter, winter kill has NOTHING to do with lion populations affecting the deer herd.&nbsp; Each lion kills 52 deer annually.&nbsp; They will kill 52 deer annually whether the winter was bad or not.&nbsp; The zone 1 quota has gone from 5 lions in the 05-06 season to 21 in the 14-15 season.&nbsp; The quota was INCREASED to 21 after your precious &quot;bad winters of 09-11.&nbsp; Let me say that again..... THE NDGF INCREASED THE LION QUOTA AFTER THE WINTERS OF 09-11!!!!&nbsp; That doesn't sound like a declining population.&nbsp; If you think the 1092 deer killed by those 21 lions has no affect on the deer population in western ND you are living in a dream world.&nbsp; DO THE MATH!!!&nbsp; If half of that 1092 were does, then you add 50% to the loss due to lion predation for the lost fawns.&nbsp; These are the lions we can verify.&nbsp; I am very confident that there are way more lions out there than the 21 that the quota allowed to be taken.&nbsp; So the annual deer kill by lions IS MUCH HIGHER.&nbsp; Give it a rest about the winter being the ONLY substantial factor to dramatically reduce deer numbers.&nbsp; I know better and so do most of the ND sportsmen.&nbsp; Lions are NOT a good thing for ND and thus far you have not shown me anything that offsets the 52 deer killed per lion per year (1092 last year) and the corresponding licence, funding, and opportunity losses these lions cause.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="KDM, post: 84094, member: 314"] Coyote Hunter, winter kill has NOTHING to do with lion populations affecting the deer herd. Each lion kills 52 deer annually. They will kill 52 deer annually whether the winter was bad or not. The zone 1 quota has gone from 5 lions in the 05-06 season to 21 in the 14-15 season. The quota was INCREASED to 21 after your precious "bad winters of 09-11. Let me say that again..... THE NDGF INCREASED THE LION QUOTA AFTER THE WINTERS OF 09-11!!!! That doesn't sound like a declining population. If you think the 1092 deer killed by those 21 lions has no affect on the deer population in western ND you are living in a dream world. DO THE MATH!!! If half of that 1092 were does, then you add 50% to the loss due to lion predation for the lost fawns. These are the lions we can verify. I am very confident that there are way more lions out there than the 21 that the quota allowed to be taken. So the annual deer kill by lions IS MUCH HIGHER. Give it a rest about the winter being the ONLY substantial factor to dramatically reduce deer numbers. I know better and so do most of the ND sportsmen. Lions are NOT a good thing for ND and thus far you have not shown me anything that offsets the 52 deer killed per lion per year (1092 last year) and the corresponding licence, funding, and opportunity losses these lions cause. [/QUOTE]

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