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I'm not sold on it yet, not saying I'm against it I'm just not sold on accuracy and real world consistent speeds.
Sounds like they have some kind of "special powder blend", watched a video where they tried pulling the bullet with pliers and twisted off the bullet in the case neck, jury is out on what "additional process" is needed for reloading, some data from Fedral says 3 or 4 reloads per case with maybe max of 6-8 before cases start cracking, depending who you watch I'm not impressed with initial accuracy or speeds, Seekins is saying they are redesigning their action to take the added pressure but you got guys out there saying that every major companies test their actions to higher than 65k pressure (which I'm sure they do), some are being responsible and warning against rebarreling older actions but you got some irresponsible saying you can take any of your old actions and rebarrel.
I don't see this reloader friendly right now. How much neck tension are they using? What is this special powder blend? What is this special case prep routine that's needed? How many suppressors can actually take consistent 80k pressure and at what barrel length will failures happen more likely?
I really do hope this pushes things to new limits vs the redesign/tweaking of old cartridge designs. There are just way too many questions out there that give me reservations.
Maybe I'm being closed minded because the way I hunt typically is get no advantage to a 16-18" barrel, heck most times I could have a 30" barrel and it wouldn't hinder me

<blockquote data-quote="luvcatchingbass" data-source="post: 439122" data-attributes="member: 1979">I'm not sold on it yet, not saying I'm against it I'm just not sold on accuracy and real world consistent speeds.Sounds like they have some kind of &quot;special powder blend&quot;, watched a video where they tried pulling the bullet with pliers and twisted off the bullet in the case neck, jury is out on what &quot;additional process&quot; is needed for reloading, some data from Fedral says 3 or 4 reloads per case with maybe max of 6-8 before cases start cracking, depending who you watch I'm not impressed with initial accuracy or speeds, Seekins is saying they are redesigning their action to take the added pressure but you got guys out there saying that every major companies test their actions to higher than 65k pressure (which I'm sure they do), some are being responsible and warning against rebarreling older actions but you got some irresponsible saying you can take any of your old actions and rebarrel. I don't see this reloader friendly right now. How much neck tension are they using? What is this special powder blend? What is this special case prep routine that's needed? How many suppressors can actually take consistent 80k pressure and at what barrel length will failures happen more likely? I really do hope this pushes things to new limits vs the redesign/tweaking of old cartridge designs. There are just way too many questions out there that give me reservations. Maybe I'm being closed minded because the way I hunt typically is get no advantage to a 16-18&quot; barrel, heck most times I could have a 30&quot; barrel and it wouldn't hinder me</blockquote>

[QUOTE="luvcatchingbass, post: 439122, member: 1979"] I'm not sold on it yet, not saying I'm against it I'm just not sold on accuracy and real world consistent speeds. Sounds like they have some kind of "special powder blend", watched a video where they tried pulling the bullet with pliers and twisted off the bullet in the case neck, jury is out on what "additional process" is needed for reloading, some data from Fedral says 3 or 4 reloads per case with maybe max of 6-8 before cases start cracking, depending who you watch I'm not impressed with initial accuracy or speeds, Seekins is saying they are redesigning their action to take the added pressure but you got guys out there saying that every major companies test their actions to higher than 65k pressure (which I'm sure they do), some are being responsible and warning against rebarreling older actions but you got some irresponsible saying you can take any of your old actions and rebarrel. I don't see this reloader friendly right now. How much neck tension are they using? What is this special powder blend? What is this special case prep routine that's needed? How many suppressors can actually take consistent 80k pressure and at what barrel length will failures happen more likely? I really do hope this pushes things to new limits vs the redesign/tweaking of old cartridge designs. There are just way too many questions out there that give me reservations. Maybe I'm being closed minded because the way I hunt typically is get no advantage to a 16-18" barrel, heck most times I could have a 30" barrel and it wouldn't hinder me [/QUOTE]

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