Old guy, old rifle, old reloads

[Zogman]

1947 model Icelander, Remington 700/270win 1982 model, Reloads from 1992. Federal brass, Federal 210 primers, 140 grain Hornady, 56.5 gr. H 4831.

Put a Bell and Carlson stock on. Leupold 3x9, After bore sighting went to the range Sunday morning and was extremely pleased with the group. 5 at 50 yds at 1 3/8 inches. Which to most on here is terrible:;:stirthepot I thought it was a great place to start.

At 74 is has been 25 years since I had a centerfire at the range. A couple of things that surprised me were.

The loud report. I need better ear muffs.
How much recoil a light weight 270 has.
The reloads were for a different 270 and must be slightly hot as the primer did show small flattening very slightly.
The rifle came with a reworked original Remington trigger. Very clean, crisp and 0 creep. Just slightly lighter than most of mine. Not going to change it.

Going to see what I can do next at 100yds. I was pushed for time this time. I have 2 more reloads to try.

 

[Retired Educator]

56.5 gr of H4831 is the most accurate load for me using 130gr bullets. I do use Barnes but otherwise it's the same.

 

[Zogman]

Boy did this fall flat. I was hoping for some wisdom or even a few wise a$$ snarky replies.

 

[Zogman]

Back at the range. Very happy with the results. There was an error in my original post. The old reloads were 140 grain Hornady. That will be my load for that rifle as I have about 100 of that load.

I will be working now with my other 270. So I'll be spending more time at the range next week.

And a 243.

 

[PrairieGhost]

I thought maybe you had an extremely tight chamber or something. Jack O'Connor used 60 gr H4831 with 130gr. That powder may have changed significantly over the years. I used 59 gr H4831 with a 130 gr bullet, but I have not shot that rifle since my last pronghorn license maybe ten tears ago. The powder may have changed since then, but not the two pounds of short kernel that I still have.
Deer season is cooler weather and the old powder your using should not be of the temperature insensitive type we sort of have now. You should have no pressure signs when deer season rolls around. Next time you go to the range get there at sunrise when its cool. Best of luck Zog.

 

[Zogman]

New ? Can I assume 4831 sc would be the same loading as the old 1992 loads of regular (LC) 4831?

 

[svnmag]

Boy did this fall flat. I was hoping for some wisdom or even a few wise a$$ snarky replies.

Mr. Butthole

 

[PrairieGhost]

Zog I see you said the primers were flattened slightly. That's normal. Now if they are completely flat with the case head or you have crattering then you have a pressure problem. If they didnt flatten some they wouldn't be sealing.

 

[sweeney]

never assume in the world of reloading, but hodgdon says it is an exact ballistic copy

 

[Zogman]

Zog I see you said the primers were flattened slightly. That's normal. Now if they are completely flat with the case head or you have crattering then you have a pressure problem. If they didnt flatten some they wouldn't be sealing.

PG, Was out with a friend with chronograph Saturday the previously load grouped .085 and mv was 2685. So I could bump the powder up some. However I don't feel the need to as the groups are so tight.

 

[PrairieGhost]

Zogman some of my rifles I go for accuracy and some for velocity, and in some rifles you can have both. I have some rifles with a dozen different loads. I hate to get new phones because the data doesn't always transfer and it a two day job manually.
Take a look at this data from the Hodgdon online loading info. My 6.5 Creedmoor with standard 140 gr loads chronograph 2770 fps. My 270 is very accurate with (130gr bullet) reduced by one grain loads and a velocity a little over 3100 fps. In that same rifle R22 (Alliant no longer sells to the public, military only) will push a 150 gr load to 3050 fps. With some powders loading below minimum listed loads can be as dangerouse as loading above max. Other powders are safe to go way down, even subsonic. Check out Hodgdons online reloading site. You can chose standard rifle, subsonic, or handgun loads. https://hodgdonreloading.com/rldc/

 

[PrairieGhost]

Zogman for an accurate load with acceptable velocity I often pic the load with the highest velocity from the minimum load data. That would make IMR 7977 very attractive. Also 7977 is one of IMRs new temperature stable powders. I think I would try 59gr for a nice even 2900 fps.

IMR

IMR 7977

3.280"

58.9

2,892

 

[SDMF]

Ramshot Hunter in a .270Win w/130's-140's for me.

 

[snow2]

1947 model Icelander, Remington 700/270win 1982 model, Reloads from 1992. Federal brass, Federal 210 primers, 140 grain Hornady, 56.5 gr. H 4831.

Put a Bell and Carlson stock on. Leupold 3x9, After bore sighting went to the range Sunday morning and was extremely pleased with the group. 5 at 50 yds at 1 3/8 inches. Which to most on here is terrible:;:stirthepot I thought it was a great place to start.

At 74 is has been 25 years since I had a centerfire at the range. A couple of things that surprised me were.

The loud report. I need better ear muffs.
How much recoil a light weight 270 has.
The reloads were for a different 270 and must be slightly hot as the primer did show small flattening very slightly.
The rifle came with a reworked original Remington trigger. Very clean, crisp and 0 creep. Just slightly lighter than most of mine. Not going to change it.

Going to see what I can do next at 100yds. I was pushed for time this time. I have 2 more reloads to try.

Well zog,@ 74 iffin your 270 felt recoil is a issue to avoid developing a flinch shooting your 270 (35lbs of felt recoil per specs) time to pony up with "creedmore 6.5" maybe,only 10lbs felt recoil 144gr. Just a thought. Beautiful rifle very versatile from 55gr varmit to
144gr Big game,just a thought.my old age I gave up big game these days,hung up my rifles and bow just shotgun sports/hunting. Time flies with age.

 

[1lessdog]

1947 model Icelander, Remington 700/270win 1982 model, Reloads from 1992. Federal brass, Federal 210 primers, 140 grain Hornady, 56.5 gr. H 4831.

Put a Bell and Carlson stock on. Leupold 3x9, After bore sighting went to the range Sunday morning and was extremely pleased with the group. 5 at 50 yds at 1 3/8 inches. Which to most on here is terrible:;:stirthepot I thought it was a great place to start.

At 74 is has been 25 years since I had a centerfire at the range. A couple of things that surprised me were.

The loud report. I need better ear muffs.
How much recoil a light weight 270 has.
The reloads were for a different 270 and must be slightly hot as the primer did show small flattening very slightly.
The rifle came with a reworked original Remington trigger. Very clean, crisp and 0 creep. Just slightly lighter than most of mine. Not going to change it.

Going to see what I can do next at 100yds. I was pushed for time this time. I have 2 more reloads to try.

Get some H4895 and do some reduced loads. I did it for two of my nieces with a 243 and 6.5 Creedmoor and there is no recoil at all. Shooting 80gr in 243 and 95gr in 6.5 Creedmoor.


The girls were 11 yrs old and not very big.