They're good for extra support for a bit of extension of the confident "8in circle" range in the awkward positions. They're useful for beating off dogs and snakes within the non-pleasure realm of contact. Rattlers may still inject venom but won't ejaculate their vile seed upon your Filson's after a good thrashing. You have to constantly anticipate the situation like playing pool or waste time adjusting the length before the shot: You're always effing with the deal and not hunting. NDW is damn right IMHE/O. I killed my biggest buck "out there" range wise from Prone Unsupported; the Stony Point monopod beside me on the ground; set about 3ft too high for the shot. I was actually high right but it worked out for some good ground shrinkage and a garage rack.