Look at the size of that deer

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being charged seems a bit extreme... I totally support confiscating the animal and a significant fine, but not sure this should be criminal, if it was supposedly an accident.
I'm sure that's all he'll get. Maybe loss of hunting privileges and probation too. Not sure what you are saying about not being criminal. It's a crime to shoot the wrong species FFS!
 


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Before Elk were common in the hills a neighbor was helping his teenage daughter fill a buck tag. A decent buck ran into a little clump of trees so he put her on post and walked it, he told her when he comes out shoot it. The first thing that came out , bull Elk and she shot it. They called the warden and she got a pretty stiff fine.
 

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Oh yeah, the famous Minnetucky "sound" shot. I bet the first thing he told Johnny Law was that he heard a noise.

A person just can't make this shit up.
Didn't a minot air base guy shoot his wife out deer hunting on Mallard Island while shooting at a noise in the brush years back ?
 

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Didn't a minot air base guy shoot his wife out deer hunting on Mallard Island while shooting at a noise in the brush years back ?
That may be true, but it's the first time I've heard of it.

We've had plenty of dumbassery events in ND as well. Not sure we keep up with our neighbors to the east, but we've certainly had some honorable mentions, if not our own Hall Of Shame..
 
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Yeah, the girl was not hit, and he never hunted again. I think the horse actually survived though. I don't recall where it was hit, but I know it was a shotgun slug.
I am pretty sure the horse was put down. Being from western ND, getting accustomed to the news articles out of Minnetucky was quite the personal accomplishment. But it has been quite a few years ago now.

being charged seems a bit extreme... I totally support confiscating the animal and a significant fine, but not sure this should be criminal, if it was supposedly an accident.
How would one assess a fine if there are no infractions of a law?
 

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I am pretty sure the horse was put down. Being from western ND, getting accustomed to the news articles out of Minnetucky was quite the personal accomplishment. But it has been quite a few years ago now.


How would one assess a fine if there are no infractions of a law?
I didnt say there wasnt an infraction of a law. Just seems like something that might not need to be criminal. Just from my perspective, I dont care enough to research the law there. This might help you understand what Im referring to:
Key Differences Between Statutory Fines and Criminal FinesIn legal contexts, criminal fines are monetary penalties imposed as punishment following a criminal conviction. They are part of the sentencing process in criminal cases, aimed at punishing the offender, deterring future crimes, and holding them accountable. Criminal fines are typically paid to the government (e.g., the court or state), and failure to pay can lead to additional consequences like probation violation or jail time.Statutory fines (or statutory penalties that are fines) refer to monetary penalties explicitly prescribed by a statute (law) for violating that specific law. These can be either:
  • Criminal: When the underlying violation is a crime (e.g., many misdemeanor fines are statutory maximums set by law).
  • Civil/regulatory: When the violation is non-criminal, such as administrative or regulatory breaches (e.g., environmental violations or traffic tickets treated as civil infractions).
The term "statutory" emphasizes that the fine amount or authority comes directly from legislation, often with fixed or maximum limits. In contrast, "criminal" specifies the nature of the proceeding and purpose (punishment for a crime).Comparison Table
AspectCriminal FinesStatutory Fines (General) / Civil Statutory Penalties
NaturePunitive (punishment for a crime)Can be punitive or remedial (deterrence/compliance)
ProceedingCriminal court; requires convictionCan be criminal or civil/administrative
Burden of ProofBeyond a reasonable doubtOften preponderance of evidence (lower standard for civil)
PurposePunishment, deterrence, rehabilitationCompensation to state, enforcement of regulations
ConsequencesCreates criminal record; may include jail if unpaidUsually no criminal record; primarily financial
ExamplesFine for theft or DUI after criminal convictionEPA fine for pollution (civil); fixed parking ticket
ImpositionBy judge after guilty verdict/pleaBy court, agency, or automatically per statute
Payment RecipientGovernment/courtGovernment or regulatory agency
Key Notes
  • Many criminal fines are statutory in origin (e.g., laws set maximum fines for specific crimes, like up to $1,000 for certain misdemeanors).
  • The main distinction often arises when comparing criminal fines to civil penalties (a type of statutory fine for non-criminal violations). Civil penalties do not involve criminal prosecution and focus on remediation rather than punishment.
  • In some jurisdictions (e.g., U.S. federal law), excessive fines are prohibited by the Constitution regardless of type.
If the query refers to a specific jurisdiction or context (e.g., traffic law or tax law), the differences can vary slightly due to local statutes.
 

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