What Happened To the Cutthroats?

[johnr]

To my recollecting I have never caught a trout.

I am willing to give it a try though. Its not my favorite tasting fish

 

[MSA]

Ive got some clear casting bobbers im gonna try in the race this weekend.

 

[svnmag]

You going streamers or dry?

 

[svnmag]

Some of what I attempted to post last night:

A few decades ago, WV developed a sterile hybrid rainbow monikered the "WV Golden Trout". In other states it's called the "Palomino". If you see this fish, it likely sees you and you WILL NOT catch it legally. Muskie have NOTHING comparable in frustration and you can drive yourself completely mad. "Regular" rainbow seem to use them as cover and are often caught from under the yellow son of a bitch. I've caught a whole two in my life; a fingerling on a ShadRap and a 19in on a crawler in Stonecoal Lake. It's like they have an acute sense of self awareness and are entertained by effing with you. Many are plucked by raptors. Many are "accidentally" hooked with a big Mepps. Good for them.

Amazingly, I'm pretty sure I KNOW where the first pic was taken and caught my fingerling on a blueback Silver Plated ShadRap about 200yds downstream in quest for an old brown. The rock ledge is distinctive. Wow: I just realized this ledge may be now very deep as this stream was dammed. wow... Anyways, the first pic is the perfect example of fish you will not catch. It was a hole at a popular camp site. Wow, weird...I'm getting old.

Bastard:

 

[MSA]

I was planning on using a smal red snell thru a whole red wiggler, or a cricket, or a minnow.

Ive never seen a gold one other than at the fish hatchery. WV as in west virginia?

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I was planning on using a smal red snell thru a whole red wiggler, or a cricket, or a minnow.

Ive never seen a gold one other than at the fish hatchery. WV as in west virginia?

 

[dean nelson]

Yeah there's a california version that looks about the same. The WV one is normally called a Palomino so as not to get confused with the trout that was already called the golden trout (also from California) that tends to be stocked way back up in the high country out west. Used catch a fair few of these (not sure WV or California) in one of the mountain lakes i lived near in Colorado. Ended up selling my cousin and few salmo hornets one weekend because the trout couldn't say no and no one carried walleye tackle up there! I always enjoy when you can run a regular rod and line and long line with light tackle for trout. So much more fun to feel all the fight instead of a big weight or lead core when tied on to four pounds of pissed off trout!

 

[svnmag]

Correct MSA. The golden Dean speaks of are a native variety. I have no experience with them. I think they're closely related to cutthroat.

Top-true, Bottom- WV:

http://www.wvgazettemail.com/outdoors/201305110071

I guess I'm wrong about them being sterile. The things you think you "know" for years...

 

[dean nelson]

This is the california version of the "golden" called a lighting trout. They were first raised by the Mt. Lassen hatchery in California.

 

[svnmag]

Those are WV and freakn' freakish fatties. Did you read the article? I guess WV should've applied for some sort of patent and had better security.

How many minutes would one last in the Race? A few years ago; the boy and I saw a pike with a head the size of a horse, scatter trout fingerlings at the boat ramp like something out of saltwater.

 

[dean nelson]

Nope lightings are a different group that were first engineered at MT lassen in California vs the Palomino out of West Virginia. It came about in the same way the Palomino did with a single odd colored male in this case bred with normal females and vala yout have a new strain. Like I said I can't tell the two apart so not sure which one it is that i have caught.

 

[svnmag]

Ahem...It's not the "palomino" in WV where the brooding technique was developed. It's the Centennial Golden Trout. It was renamed after a treasonous bandit smuggled eggs into Pa. As I look closer at your pic those fish look like modified cutthroat. Damn COPYCATS!! Is this what you were catching on the Salmo's?

 

[svnmag]

If I caught one of those I might cry like the faggot in the "Double Rainbow Video".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQSNhk5ICTI

 

[dean nelson]

No what i caught were either the WV or lighting. I caught one of the true Goldens when I was 10 or so out on vacation. We have a couple lakes near where I lived that had them but they are such a bitch to get to i never went back after them. The true golden trout are generally in small little lakes up near or above timber line and normally a few mile hike back into so not a fish people get by chance but instead as the main reason your up there. The one I did catch as a kid came from this lake up at 11,000 which my cousin seemed surprised about so not sure if it's normally stocked with them or not. Tell you one thing it is fun to watch them more or less fire bomb the fish out of an airplane to stock them! You see the spray of water as the tank opens then a couple seconds later you see them hit the water.



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Ahem...It's not the "palomino" in WV where the brooding technique was developed. It's the Centennial Golden Trout. It was renamed after a treasonous bandit smuggled eggs into Pa. As I look closer at your pic those fish look like modified cutthroat. Damn COPYCATS!! Is this what you were catching on the Salmo's?

The one thing I would love to know is if the lighting trout story is true. Did they really have an odd colored one that they fostered or did the have a WV fish that they claimed they just happend apon but in reality shipped in for the purpose of getting in on the action. Since MT Lassen is privet I could totally see them stealing a few.

 

[svnmag]

I love trout and clean water.

WV Native Brook Trout (char):

Char disprove the "Flat Earth Theory".

 

[dean nelson]

Yeah had tons of those in the little creek that ran by the house. Would love to catch some of the monsters out in lake superior vs the little ones I've caught because they are about the prittest fish around.

 

[svnmag]

I guess our posts got crossed: If you were that successful with this damned yellow fish; it would be beneficial to pursue muskie: These little creek fish are very sporting/challenging on light tackle and even more elusive with modern trespass law. Used to have a five foot buffer on either bank...Now it's all effed like everything else due to disrepective retards. As kids we knew to retreat and call a warden. "Deliverance" is peculating into "mainstream". Still have areas I think I could hit without issue. I don't KNOW. WV didn't used to stock posted land and access was gained on foot with the five foot buffer. Now I don't know. I remember a section of Files Creek illegally posted with barbed wire across the stream. I remember the tool's name and never called the DNR about it. I guess the jackass won.

 

[MSA]

I grew up in northern Virginia and hunted with my dad alot in west virginia....lots of banjo playin goes on up in them mountains.

 

[svnmag]

No success with the cheater floats? Why not dunk some meat? The slip bobber is perfect for trout. Bait is at perfect level and drift for these corksoakers. I don't know if I'd dunk a drop shot rig passively as I don't trust the weight flopping around. Guess it's no different...

 

[svnmag]

I'm guessing these guys wouldn't approve of baitcasting tackle. Well, I like ketchup on hotdogs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G75Y4FCzJDw

 

[FishReaper]

Went down this weekend. Tried casting shallow divers off shore south of the honey hole. No luck there for a couple hours.
Went up to the release and continued throwing cranks and did decent on walleye but no trout
The guy next to me got a nice rainbow off a rapala