You should research Super Fund sites such as Niagra, NY, and Libby, MT. Do you, as a taxpayer, want to pay to clean up another mess?What is the specific concern with this? Acid-rock drainage?
You should research Super Fund sites such as Niagra, NY, and Libby, MT. Do you, as a taxpayer, want to pay to clean up another mess?What is the specific concern with this? Acid-rock drainage?
https://www.mclanahan.com/blog/dry-stack-tailings-an-alternative-to-conventional-tailings-managementWhat is the specific concern with this? Acid-rock drainage?
I am well aware of super fund sites. My company got started working the one in Niagara (Love Canal) in the 70s. Most of the super fund sites were results from industries dumping their chemicals into the soil back in the 30s, 40s, 50s before the EPA or any other environmental regulations existed. What makes you think this project will be a future superfund site? What are your specific concerns?You should research Super Fund sites such as Niagra, NY, and Libby, MT. Do you, as a taxpayer, want to pay to clean up another mess?
I’m not familiar with the project, but do we know if there will be significant tailings? These are being brought in from MN, correct? Are these being mined from a sulfur-rich formation, like that in the Duluth Complex (Ely, MN area)? They are bringing ore, not straight up formation rock, correct? So it has already gone through some stage of refining?https://www.mclanahan.com/blog/dry-stack-tailings-an-alternative-to-conventional-tailings-management
I wonder what their tailings management plan is?
I am well aware of super fund sites. My company got started working the one in Niagara (Love Canal) in the 70s. Most of the super fund sites were results from industries dumping their chemicals into the soil back in the 30s, 40s, 50s before the EPA or any other environmental regulations existed. What makes you think this project will be a future superfund site? What are your specific concerns?
I’m not familiar with the project, but do we know if there will be significant tailings? These are being brought in from MN, correct? Are these being mined from a sulfur-rich formation, like that in the Duluth Complex (Ely, MN area)? They are bringing ore, not straight up formation rock, correct? So it has already gone through some stage of refining?
Seems like a lot of fear mongering doomsdayers to me, similar to those who protested DAPL. We have a big oil refinery right along the Missouri River and we are all still here (so are the big walleyes). Numerous coal mines, hazardous waste disposal wells, cow farts, and ND is still thriving economically and environmentally.
No doubt. But rest assured that whatever work they do will be heavily regulated by the state and the fed on all levels.I just don't trust industries anymore to control the waste that they generate.
I would be more concerned with arsenic, mercury, and ???? heavy metals. Yes, some of them can create acid-mine drainage. Often times they put the chems over into a containment structure like a mine tailings pond that is artificial.What is the specific concern with this? Acid-rock drainage?
The avoidance of MN regulation is EXACTLY what the company is looking for in the move to ND.No doubt. But rest assured that whatever work they do will be heavily regulated by the state and the fed on all levels.
Of course. No doubt ND is more industry-friendly than MN in that regard. It doesn’t mean it will be unregulated. EPA, NDDEQ, and Mercer County still have regulations that will be enforced. My argument is more against the narrative that we are selling out ND’s environmental future by constructing a plant like this. We can operate a (seemingly) economically prosperous industry and not cause environmental catastrophe, not unlike a massive oil refinery along the banks of the Missouri River.The avoidance of MN regulation is EXACTLY what the company is looking for in the move to ND.
Supporting the fake green nonsense is bad because it is used to take away our rights to use fossil fuels effectively.This is the first I'm hearing of this and I don't understand the frustration. Will it generate revenue and create jobs in the state? Even if EVs aren't very practical in ND right now, why would be it bad to sell product in other states, like California?
I am well aware of super fund sites. My company got started working the one in Niagara (Love Canal) in the 70s. Most of the super fund sites were results from industries dumping their chemicals into the soil back in the 30s, 40s, 50s before the EPA or any other environmental regulations existed. What makes you think this project will be a future superfund site? What are your specific concerns?
I’m not familiar with the project, but do we know if there will be significant tailings? These are being brought in from MN, correct? Are these being mined from a sulfur-rich formation, like that in the Duluth Complex (Ely, MN area)? They are bringing ore, not straight up formation rock, correct? So it has already gone through some stage of refining?
It sounds like catastrophizing to me, similar to those who protested DAPL. We have a big oil refinery right along the Missouri River and we are all still here (so are the big walleyes). Numerous coal mines, hazardous waste disposal wells, cow farts, and ND is still thriving economically and environmentally. While ignorant of this particular project, I just want to avoid the false dichotomy between economic gain and environmental catastrophe that many environmentalists make.
Don't get me wrong - I generally concur that we shouldn't be NIMBY hypocrites.Of course. No doubt ND is more industry-friendly than MN in that regard. It doesn’t mean it will be unregulated. EPA, NDDEQ, and Mercer County still have regulations that will be enforced. My argument is more against the narrative that we are selling out ND’s environmental future by constructing a plant like this. We can operate a (seemingly) economically prosperous industry and not cause environmental catastrophe, not unlike a massive oil refinery along the banks of the Missouri River.