A river on fire

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https://www.facebook.com/topic/Cond...ce=wtfrt&position=5&trqid=6277218832973809631
Fracking going on nearby (within a kilometer)


A RIVER ON FIRE! Gas explodes from Australian river near fracking site. I was shocked by force of the explosion when I tested whether gas boiling through the Condamine River, Qld was flammable. So much gas is bubbling through the river that it held a huge flame.
There has been concern that fracking and extraction of coal seam gas could cause gas to migrate through the rock. Not only is it polluting the river and air, but methane is an extremely potent heat trapping gas. Fugitive emissions from the unconventional gas industry could be a major contributor to climate change and make gas as dirty as burning coal.
Gas first started bubbling though the river shortly after the coal seam gas industry took off in the Chinchilla area. Since then the volume of gas bubbling through the river has massively increased and has spread along the river.
You can see stakes in the river bank were the Queensland Government has marked each gas seep. You can also see pipework near the river where Origin Energy has installed for monitoring the gas bubbling through the river.
Thanks to John Jenkyn for taking me up the river in his tinnie. He's a champion!
 
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Hmmm. That does suck. My right wing, whackjob conservative mind has me pondering if this phenomena was achievable before fracking...Seems made to order for the dung fire for the masses/palatial mansion for the elite crowd.
 
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Procedure is the contention not the product.
 


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It's methane gas bubbling from a coal seam that has been documented for 100 years is what some of the locals claim.
 

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I wonder how shallow their oil drilling is.

The coal vain in question is said the be 300 feet deep so its quit shallow. It's sounds like a preexisting methane leak from a fIsher in the rock that was probably sped up a bit by the fracking. Hard to tell since every story i read on it seemed to be bias one way or the other so had to do allot of reading between the lines.
 

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This is a fisher in the rock

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300' deep will see nothing from a fracturing procedure, jus sayin.
 
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Idiots. These authors always say the gas comes fracking, but never question why there is no fluid or sand coming with it. Same lines as my water well has gas in it now.
 

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This is a fisher in the rock

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300' deep will see nothing from a fracking procedure, jus sayin.

Actually that would be a mink in a rock.

And explain how 300 feet deep will not see fracking and be specific to the area. Also note I worked for Haliburton for a few years on a frac crew so please elaborate on your knowledge of coal fracking since we all know the details of this ever so common practice around here. Just saying
 
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Dean, Do they frac CDM wells ?

And yup, Pretty sure that's a mink.
 
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natural seeps of gas are commonplace and have been well before fracing technology was developed.

natural gas builds in the subsurface and will find a way to the surface if and where it can. In the posted case it was under a river. Fracing is just a way to recover it down in the source zone where it's trapped.

if anything I would think that fracing actually reduces the surface losses because it reduces the pressures down at the source - relieving the pressure that drives the gas to the surface (that's my amateur geologist view of it anyway)

https://www.dmr.nd.gov/ndgs/shallowgas/





Storage tank for natural gas at the Northern Hotel in Edgeley, LaMoure County, North Dakota around 1920. This tank was once used to collect gas from an artesian well in the area. The gas was used to light the hotel (from Hard, 1920).
 

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When I lived in central WY you could start the tap water on fire, there wasn't any fracking in the area either. Just lots of methane.
 


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Dean, Do they frac CDM wells ?

And yup, Pretty sure that's a mink.
You talking the Kyoto stuff? We didn't ratify it's so I have no idea.

As for why I said this frac job may have caused some of this is that the gas leak in that area had a fairly large increase in the amount of gas being expelled after the frac job and the fissure was known to go down into the seam. Or frac jobs up here for comparison are 34 times deeper then this one. Have no idea how they frac a coal seam but would guess it's fairly similar to our shale. Fracking that shallow is definitely allot more risky then what we do here before you throw in large cracks in the rocks.
 

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You talking the Kyoto stuff? We didn't ratify it's so I have no idea.

As for why I said this frac job may have caused some of this is that the gas leak in that area had a fairly large increase in the amount of gas being expelled after the frac job and the fissure was known to go down into the seam. Or frac jobs up here for comparison are 34 times deeper then this one. Have no idea how they frac a coal seam but would guess it's fairly similar to our shale. Fracking that shallow is definitely allot more risky then what we do here before you throw in large cracks in the rocks.

I didn't realize they frac those shallow coal bed methane wells, That's a bad idea. Not to be confused with fracing a 10,000 foot well though.
 

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There's some folks that have been on documentaries in Mckenzie County lighting their tap on fire. They didn't bother to mention they have been able to do that since the well was drilled. People will claim damn near anything for the chance at some victim $$$.
 

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It's all in how you market it. It could be a boon for the area. "Come and see the BURNING RIVER!!! A one of a kind in the world!! Bring the kiddies to witness this magic marvel!!!" Buy a home on the newly created "Smoldering Shores Development" Buy now while it's still HOT!!!!
 


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