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My first guess is he loaded more charge than the gun was supposed to have, ie. four 50 grain pellets rather than 3. My second guess is he used center fire rifle powder instead of muzzy powder which produces more extreme pressures in shorter amounts of time. My third guess is an improperly installed muzzle brake that essentially plugged the barrel with the bullet. Regardless of the cause, he's darn lucky to be alive.
 

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Yeah would there me a lot more black power smoke? Seems to have used actual rifle powder?
 


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Yeah would there me a lot more black power smoke? Seems to have used actual rifle powder?

This is what I thought as well. I've shot plenty of muzzle loader before and the smoke blinds you from the target for a while. Not near enough smoke for black powder, IMO.
 

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I must be missing something,never seen a muzzleloader with a bolt. New?
 

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Should have been a lot more smoke. Rifle powder is my guess too.
 

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Am I the only one that thinks that looks like a typical bolt action center fire rifle and not a muzzle loader?
 

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Some of the new muzzle loaders now have bolt type actions when you install the primer to seal and direct the entire flame from the cap into the chamber for a more reliable ignition. Just a guess though.

Labhunter beat me too it with a "Picture is worth however many words are in my post" post.
 

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I'd say this guy owes his life to the fluted barrel that tore apart. Otherwise that bolt may have broke loose and ended up in his skull or had a grenade type affect. Gives me shivers to think about the possibilities. Lucky Man or Unlucky Man depending on how you look at it.
 


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I have a older CVA 209 50cal muzzleloader and it has a bolt. The bolt locks in a 209 shotgun primer and is just does that. You still need to put powder down barrel and push bullet down to powder. For cleaning and breakdown you still need to take a breech plug out. When you cycle the bolt it arms the firing pin for the 209 primer dukgnfsn100_9185.jpg dukgnfsn

this is not my weapon, just a representation of same gun
 
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And another round of beer. Alcohol had to be involved somewhere in this clip.
 

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Wonder what caused that . Ouch
Only time I've seen a muzzle loader blow up the guy forgot he loaded it and loaded a second set of powder and a second bullet on top of the first set and for some reason the gun didn't seem to think that was the best idea ever.
 

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My #1 most likely theory: Sabot from previous shot hung up in the muzzle-brake creating a barrel obstruction.

Some of the new black powder substitutes like Buckhorn 209 don't give the big cloud of smoke like we're used to seeing.

I haven't tried, nor would I, nor should anyone else, but, I don't believe you can actually "overcharge" blackpowder and get that sort of a reaction so long as you've compressed the charge of loose or seated the bullet up against the pellets. Blackpowder is strange stuff compared to smokeless. Blackpowder is explosive when loose, however, when compressed it is a propellant with a consistent burn rate. Give blackpowder some space however and it = KABOOM! A projectile seated say 1/2-2/3 of the way down the bore rather than tight to the powder charge could also cause the KABOOM from above.

The reason I don't believe the rifle was over-charged with powder is that every now and then you hear about a person forgetting the ram-rod and shooting the thing off to kingdom come. The ram-rod weighs 5-10x (or more) what a normal bullet does and it doesn't blow up the rifle.

Edited to add: ALWAYS put a mark on your ram-rod that equates to a fully compressed powder/bullet charge. You will shoot more accurately and will avoid things like a double-charge.
 


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