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buckhunter24_7

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They run over it with this

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Just think of the stuff that guy has seen
 


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That recycled water along San Antonio's canal street is only slightly better than open sewer.

We have off peak electric and it's less expensive than gas. We purchased that electric furnace made in Dickinson. It has a couple hundred pounds of ceramic brick in it. Supposedly the heated brick will keep the house warm for a couple of days. We can never tell when we are on or off peak. The hot water heater is one of those plastic with very thick insulation. Nearly like a Yeti in construction so that never gives a hint when we're off peak.
 

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I looked at off peak for my garage, but just decided it wasn't the right choice because of recovery time. Its hard for me to fathom it being much cheaper than NG. To heat my 2400sq ft house to 68 and my 800sq ft garage to 50, my bill in December was only $65 and for Jan its $80. I could certianly do a few things to seal up my garage a bit better as well. Is is just me or do all garage entry doors suck?

i would think in rural property an LP/Off peak system would be the best bet though.
 

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what kind of btu's can u get out of one of them? my cousins grandpa had one in his shop and every time we worked in there it was cold as hell.. not sure if he was just to cheap to really pour the corn to it or not.

if u cld have a silo, a coal stove would be the way to go imo. its fairly cheap to get, just messy, seems like everything is covered in dust all the time from it.

7000 Btu's per lb at 15% moisture is what I've found to be the most common estimate. I know the corn needs to be clean and there is a dust issue to deal with, but I have a very good producer buddy that heats his ENTIRE 130 X 300 X 30 ft Quonset with corn and he uses approximately a bushel a day. That almost 1.2 million cubic ft of space and he keeps it at 60 degrees. At 4 bucks a bushel that's pretty cheap. My house (with basement) is about 30000 cubic ft. Using that math it should take about 2 lbs of corn per day to heat the whole house. Looks cheaper than most any other fuel. Sounds too good to be true so I'm going to stick with a bushel a day for the house as I don't know how this will play out in the end. Even at that, 4 bucks a day for heat isn't too bad. Downside is the initial costs for purchase, install, the mess, the labor to refill the hopper, and housing the thing as I don't want the thing inside the house. I will also need a solar panel to power the fan to move the air into the house and auger the corn if the power craps out. All in all, I like the option of being able to heat my house all winter with a fuel source I can grow myself. With the prices of electricity, propane, and gas fluctuating like they do and the distinct possibility of being without each of those due to unforeseen factors, I'm switching to serious mode to get one.

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I've been using this for my cost/benefit calculations and it seems to work pretty well:

[h=3]Cost of Heating with Corn[/h]To accurately compare heating with corn to other heating fuels, consider a number of factors. While the price of fuel is important, take into account the heating efficiency of the heating system and the energy content of a unit of each fuel.
The following calculates the cost per million BTUs of usable energy for any fuel and any fuel-burning appliance. The formula takes into account these factors:


  • cost/unit of fuel
  • energy content/unit of fuel
  • annual fuel utilization efficiency of the appliance
$ per million BTUs of usable energy=
(Cost/unit of fuel x 1,000,000) ÷ (Energy content/unit of fuel x AFUE)Where:Cost/unit of fuel is in dollars ($$)Energy content/unit of fuel is in BTUsAnnual Fuel Utilization Efficiency (AFUE) is in decimal form (70% efficiency = 0.7)Example:Using corn at $4.00 per bushel, in a stove with an AFUE of 60%, calculate the cost per million BTUs of usable energy:Corn cost = $4.00 per bushel
Energy content per bushel = 7,000 BTU/lb x 56 lb/bu = 392,000 BTU
AFUE = 60% = 0.6$ per million BTUs of usable energy= ($4.00 x 1,000,000) ÷ (392,000 x 0.6)= $17.00Therefore, to supply 1 million BTUs of usable heat to the house costs $17 when the stove operates at 60% efficiency, burning corn at $4 per bushel. The average older home requires approximately 100 million BTUs of usable energy for heating per year. Remember that the price charged per bushel of corn may vary from the market price when small quantities are purchased. Check the prices carefully before doing these calculations.​

Fuel TypeEnergy Content per UnitAnnual Fuel Utilization Efficiency (AFUE)*
Shelled corn7,000 BTU/lb
(16,200 kJ/kg)
60%–80%
(392,000 BTU/56-lb bu)
(336,000 BTU/48-lb bu)
Furnace oil36,700 BTU/L
(38,700 kJ/L)
70%–95%
Propane25,300 BTU/L
(26,900 kJ/L)
70%–95%
Natural gas35,700 BTU/m[SUP]3[/SUP]
(37,700 kJ/m[SUP]3[/SUP])
70%–95%
Electricity resistance3,413 BTU/kWh
(3,600 kJ/kWh)
100%
Air source heat pumpC.O.P. = 3.0300% **
Water source heat pumpC.O.P. = 5.0500% **
Wood8,000 BTU/lb
(18,500 kJ/kg)
60%
* The Annual Fuel Utilization Efficiency (AFUE) is a widely used measure of a furnace's heating efficiency. It measures the amount of heat actually delivered to the house compared to the amount of fuel that is supplied to the furnace. A furnace that has an 80% AFUE rating converts 80% of the fuel that is supplied into heat – the other 20% is lost out the chimney.
 


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My brother heated a small farm house with one of these for a few years. They had a fuel oil furnace for backup.

http://stcroixstoves.com/multi-fuel-stoves/traditional-multi-fuel-stove-auburn

They are fairly inexpensive and not bad to set up. It had a forced air vent so you didn't need another chimney. He ran the exhaust out the side of the house. They burned corn for several years until it got expensive, then switched to wood pellets. I don't remember complaints about it being messy. He had a cleaner that he ran the corn through. One of the nice things about the wood pellets is they didn't need cleaning.
 

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San Antonio, I would rather freeze that be in that shithole, never will go back to that place

No Choice there - business meetings - I actually like going to the west to the NSCA/NSSA club grounds and getting in a couple rounds of sporting clays in the winter.
 

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Caught around 40 peacock bass yesterday. Bill isn't wearing a mask cause he's worried about frost bite
 

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We had a corn stove on the farm and bought it from Dale (can't remember his last name) and i believe he was from LaMoure. Worked great and burned all kinds of grain but the corn worked best. Also burned durum pellets once just to see if it would work and it did. Wood pellets worked good too. Nice even steady heat like wood and coal. We used about 1 bushel a day as it was a stoker furnace so it had to kick in now and then for more corn to keep the pot burning.
Someone on here knows this gentleman that sells these stoves in LaMoure. I thought he was a farmer but might be wrong.
 


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