Dam Bureaucrats!

[Fester]

I am all for cutting government waste. I think there is serious bloat and there are cushy do-nothing jobs that should be cut. I also know that there are necessary government jobs and that many government services are in fact a bargain compared to the private sector. Ignorant vilifying of federal employees is dumb. If we want serious government waste cut, you’ll never get it by cutting jobs. It’s in the contracts and grants. And to your last sentence, that’s already done in wage bargaining and it’s all publicly available.

Yes they do. Small commercial jobs offering 40/hr plus per diem which comes out to…50-60 per hour. Amazing. Oilfield and power plant even more. Do you understand what comparable industry means? If WAPA was running wires in new apartments we could compare your 34-40 and hour number.

Sure sound like you are arguing for thr bloat and spending..everything i have said which is cutting the bloat and excess you have argued...and again your wages you have mentioned are all union jobs. Look up the AVERAGE wage..jeezus...last time i say AVERAGE. I get its hard to understand...

 

[bravo]

Sure sound like you are arguing for thr bloat and spending..everything i have said which is cutting the bloat and excess you have argued...and again your wages you have mentioned are all union jobs. Look up the AVERAGE wage..jeezus...last time i say AVERAGE. I get its hard to understand...

What am I missing? Googling the average wage shows one thing, looking at job ads shows another. Experience in the field shows another.

Again, if we’re comparing apples to apples and not worrying about what google says the average wage is, you’re off.

 

[Fester]

What am I missing?

State and federal info...not google..its out there you can do it..i know you can..also not the mean..the ...well you know...

 

[bravo]

Not the mean? You were harping about the average.

 

[Fester]

Not the mean? You were harping about the average.

Right..not mean but....the.....

 

[bravo]

You wanted average (mean). If you wanted the median that’s a different number and different conversation.

 

[Fester]

You wanted average (mean). If you wanted the median that’s a different number and different conversation.

Lets do both..i have tbe numbers..i was off by $1.00

 

[bravo]

What are your numbers for comparable job description? If we want to have an honest conversation we can’t compare a small household journeyman and a high voltage sub electrician.

 

[Fester]

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_nd.htm

What are your numbers for comparable job description? If we want to have an honest conversation we can’t compare a small household journeyman and a high voltage sub electrician.

Oh you can...like i said i have both..frim the govt. Not a contractor posting a bloated wage to get people to call in then say well with your experiance we can give you this...

 

[Fester]

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_nd.htm

These are the most recent 2023..so give a little more for wage increases..but no where near your amounts being giving..i will help you out a little more since it seems google is your limit..3/4 of the way down or so....

 

[bravo]

And from that website, nationwide average in the energy industry is $48-56 an hour.

 

[Fester]

And from that website, nationwide average in the energy industry is $48-56 an hour.

Jeezus...NORTH DAKOTA....keep trying buddy..energy is also union work again...man oh man..the struggle is real

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Help wanted signs are everywhere. Why does the private sector have to compete with big gubment for employees? Be it federal employees or persons paid to sit at home.

 

[Fester]

Help wanted signs are everywhere. Why does the private sector have to compete with big gubment for employees? Be it federal employees or persons paid to sit at home.

They shouldnt, thats why wages should be a certain percent with private sector.

 

[bravo]

Jeezus...NORTH DAKOTA....keep trying buddy..energy is also union work again...man oh man..the struggle is real

North Dakota reports 2nd highest electrician wage of all states lol. And yeah, unions are going to be involved in the power sector, aka same industry as federal hydro power.

 

[bravo]

Help wanted signs are everywhere. Why does the private sector have to compete with big gubment for employees? Be it federal employees or persons paid to sit at home.

Believe me, we are poaching from the feds. Especially engineers. And some people want to work in public service, especially vets. More power to ‘em, they aren’t getting rich.

 

[Fester]

North Dakota reports 2nd highest electrician wage lol. And yeah, unions are going to be involved in the power sector, aka same industry as federal hydro power.

Okay

 

[bravo]

I’m not arguing with you. I’m just explaining why I’m so infallibly correct.

In all seriousness, I think hacking trade workers from fed jobs does nothing positive. It won’t make an ounce of difference in taxpayer savings. It’ll be a black eye to 10s of thousands of voters. It’ll be used by the left to sway independents and on the fence voters that welders, sparkers, and vets were thrown on the street by Trump and Elon. When they could go after actual whales.

 

[Fester]

I’m not arguing with you. I’m just explaining why I’m so infallibly correct.

In all seriousness, I think hacking trade workers from fed jobs does nothing positive. It won’t make an ounce of difference in taxpayer savings. It’ll be a black eye to 10s of thousands of voters. It’ll be used by the left to sway independents and on the fence voters that welders, sparkers, and vets were thrown on the street by Trump and Elon. When they could go after actual whales.

Just like joe bidens immigration stats..

 

[woodduck30]

Bravo, can you post what a journeyman lineman makes for wapa? I'm not finding where you are getting info. I thought wapa quit hiring a few weeks ago and started layoffs. I can't find any open jobs.