Hak's Flyer days numbered?

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What do you think? GM Hextall is fired. Pres Holmgren says he will leave decision to the new GM. Flyers currently either near the bottom or at the bottom of their division. Hextall hired Hak.
I think he may be looking for a new job. Where do you think he might end up? another NHL gig as either a Head Coach or Asst? Back to a NCHC job opening? WCHA? stay out east at some hockey east school?
I don't think he will be unemployed long no matter where he may go.
 


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Fire GM because the owner doesn't like the W/L record. New GM needs to improve on the W/L record so if he cannot see improvement based on some personnel changes then who is next in line to blame? Pretty basic scenario in all pro sports, I guess in all sports clear down to Little League.
 

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If he doesn't turn it around pretty quickly he will be gone, and even if he does turn it around in the short term, I think he will be done when they miss the playoffs or get eliminated in the first round again.
 

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I agree, its going to be difficult to keep his job with a new GM coming in. I think the owner did realize that a huge part of the problem is the players they've brought in and that is the GM's issue, not the coaches. Regardless, I think he's taking an assistant job somewhere unless he get lucky and snags another head job. NHL is weird though, its pretty common for head coaches to jump around a lot. I do not see him coming back into the NCHC unless he gets desperate.
 


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I heard on the NHL network yesterday that one of the main reasons the GM was fired was because the owner wanted him to fire Hak and he wouldn't. So pretty sure Hak will be gone by Christmas.
 

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Yeah, not sure if another NHL team are chomping to snap him up for a Head coaching job but can see some NHL picking him up as an Asst. I do believe there are probably some College teams chomping at the bit to interview him for a head coaching job.
 

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If I were him, Id take my millions and enjoy myself until the perfect job/situation opened up. I'm always amazed how these coaches will immediately jump into another position. These guys aren't your normal family man making 50k that need that next paycheck to support the fam, yet it seems that's how most of them act when they loose a coaching job.
 

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Agree to a point Bfishn, but i also believe sometimes a person/family gets used to a lifestyle and payments that may go with that, it may be a little hard adjusting to no income or substantially less income for any length of time. Although it is probably true, any new position less than Head Coach in the NHL, will be less $.
 

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Too bad the last two former Sioux coaches couldn't quite make it big in the NHL, but they're set for life anyway if they play their cards right. He still lives here in the summer in a house that has probably long been paid for, and he seems pretty grounded to me. I found it very interesting that he is the 4th longest employed coach in the league with the same team. Talk about turnover in the NHL!
 


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I heard on the NHL network yesterday that one of the main reasons the GM was fired was because the owner wanted him to fire Hak and he wouldn't. So pretty sure Hak will be gone by Christmas.

I think that was just a rumor. It doesn't make sense that the president would fire the gm for not firing hakstol and then two days later also fire the assistant gm, asssistant coach and the director of player personnel but not fire hakstol. If the president wanted him gone, he'd be gone. Having said that, I think hakstol's days are numbered if he doesn't get that team turned around ASAP. Even if he does, the new gm may want to go his own way. If I was hired as the new gm, the first thing I'd do is hire quenville, the blackhawks coach who was just fired. He's the second winningest coach of all time. Also, it's crazy that hakstol as of right now is the 4th longest tenured coach in the NHL. It's tough to be consistent when you have played 5 different goalies so far this year because of injuries.
 

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I think that was just a rumor. It doesn't make sense that the president would fire the gm for not firing hakstol and then two days later also fire the assistant gm, asssistant coach and the director of player personnel but not fire hakstol. If the president wanted him gone, he'd be gone. Having said that, I think hakstol's days are numbered if he doesn't get that team turned around ASAP. Even if he does, the new gm may want to go his own way. If I was hired as the new gm, the first thing I'd do is hire quenville, the blackhawks coach who was just fired. He's the second winningest coach of all time. Also, it's crazy that hakstol as of right now is the 4th longest tenured coach in the NHL. It's tough to be consistent when you have played 5 different goalies so far this year because of injuries.

I agree, Q has to be the top coach available right now. But he probably has the cred to wait it out and see if anything better than the flyers is available next spring.
 

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I think he will be gone before next season but one thing to consider if you are the best coach in the world and your goal tending sucks you can't win. Just look a Chicago last year.
 

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Hak is known for 2nd half pushes so i think if he was let go before Jan, it would be a mistake. See what happens this next 6 weeks and if no surge, then perhaps pull the plug on him...but yeah..kinda hard to blame the coach with goal-tending woes, but that's the way it is with pro sports... what have you done for me lately? Us fans are probably partly/mostly to blame for this mentality.
 

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From what I'm hearing there was friction between Hak and Hextal. Hak wanted to fire the assistant coach long ago. Hextal had really dug his heals in on making any trades, or bringing up Carter Hart...Hak wanted the players he needs to win.

Hak is fine. They are interviewing Fletcher this morning. Being from the Wild...I'm sure Fletcher and Hak are familiar with each other. Hak is a good coach and is known to be so. The players support him.

They have made the playoffs 2 out of 3 years with a few veterans and rag-tag bunch of 19-20 year old kids. Remember, when the Flyers made the same mistake with Laviolette?

What I worry about is who is going to replace Murphy and coach the D corps?

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I heard on the NHL network yesterday that one of the main reasons the GM was fired was because the owner wanted him to fire Hak and he wouldn't. So pretty sure Hak will be gone by Christmas.

Yesterday the GM canned Murphy based on Hak's recommendation. The GM has said he supports Hak. When you have a team save percentage of .885 it's tough to win games. Hak and the GM are on the same page as far as what needs to be done to win games.
 


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