Minimum Wages

[LBrandt]

Means that Big Mac is going to cost you 15 bucks and the dollar store will need to change its name to the two dollar store. What you think?

 

[riverview]

I've never thought minimum wage was for adults, always thought it was for high school kids.

 

[pointer]

It going to shut down small business totally

 

[johnr]

Most minimum wage is already over paid at half that.
don’t think the zit covered kid bagging my groceries needs to earn more than $5?

 

[guywhofishes]

thanks Obama

 

[SDMF]

Most minimum wage is already over paid at half that.
don’t think the zit covered kid bagging my groceries needs to earn more than $5?

There'll be fewer of those jobs, they'll go the way of the "Full Service" line @ the gas station. If a grocery store intends to have say 10 lines open, they'll have 2-3 baggers instead of 10 and they'll charge for it. Want your groceries bagged? $5.

 

[WormWiggler]

Self check out is fine by me, do it all the time with no issue.

A couple days back, I saw a blurb that compared a big mac cost in Australia vs. US and also included the wages. I forget the numbers but a cheaper burger and higher wages down under. My take.... US workers are so pathetic there is likely double the number of employees to run the damn restaurant.

 

[Ponyroper]

When I was in Australia in 2005 my niece was working as a waitress in a restaurant. She told us not to leave tips because the waiters and waitresses were paid $27 an hour and people were not expected to leave tips. Stuff like food and gas were higher priced than in the U.S. but when you converted the Aussie prices to U.S. equivalent it wasn't that much higher for most things. Gas was the one thing much higher than over here but nearly everyone drove much smaller vehicles that got better mileage than our vehicles. There were NO big SUV's anywhere and I don't think I saw more than half a dozen full sized pickups in the 3 weeks I was down there all over the east coast where 75% of the people live and out in the outback that I drove around in. Almost all the semi's on the outback roads were triple van train rigs and all of them were decked out with heavy "Roo" bars on front because there were so many kangaroos crossing the highways you literally couldn't help but hit one eventually. It was an amazing place to visit and I'd go back in a minute if I could. Here's one that lost the fight with a semi.

 

[BrokenBackJack]

When I was in Australia in 2005 my niece was working as a waitress in a restaurant. She told us not to leave tips because the waiters and waitresses were paid $27 an hour and people were not expected to leave tips. Stuff like food and gas were higher priced than in the U.S. but when you converted the Aussie prices to U.S. equivalent it wasn't that much higher for most things. Gas was the one thing much higher than over here but nearly everyone drove much smaller vehicles that got better mileage than our vehicles. There were NO big SUV's anywhere and I don't think I saw more than half a dozen full sized pickups in the 3 weeks I was down there all over the east coast where 75% of the people live and out in the outback that I drove around in. Almost all the semi's on the outback roads were triple van train rigs and all of them were decked out with heavy "Roo" bars on front because there were so many kangaroos crossing the highways you literally couldn't help but hit one eventually. It was an amazing place to visit and I'd go back in a minute if I could. Here's one that lost the fight with a semi.

Ruh-Roh he didn't look both ways before crossing! ;:;badidea

 

[Zogman]

​So what do they taste like?

 

[LBrandt]

​So what do they taste like?

Platerpuss.

 

[sl1000794]

​So what do they taste like?

I guess if they are road kills they'd be battered and would have to be deep fried!

 

[Ponyroper]

​So what do they taste like?

Kangaroo isn't bad. Little tough and dry if it isn't made right. Camel tastes like very bad beef. Was going to try Emu and Crocodile but they only had camel and kangaroo the night we ate there. They alternate one night camel and kangaroo then the next night emu and crocodile.

The kangaroos in the outback are frigging huge. Some of the big reds get 6-7' tall and weigh more than a big muley buck. Hit one of them without a roo bar and you can call the salvage yard. I pulled off the road and trailed a couple of them for about a mile into the bush but they were really cagey and stayed about 3-400 yards away from me and just peeked over the brush to keep me in sight. Met a couple there on holiday (what they call vacation) and the guy told me he was going to have to shoot 40 roos for a neighbor when he got home. The neighbor got a permit from the government to shoot them to thin the herd near his home. I asked if they used the meat and he said the neighbor didn't want to pay the extra fee for the meat permit so they were just going to let them lay. Met 4 or 5 young guys on holiday and one gave me his number and told me if I ever got to Adelaide I should give him a call and he and his buddies would take me out jacklighting roos. He said it was great fun. Good salt of the earth people in the outback.

 

[3Roosters]

My guess is if an employer wants to keep his/her good help, he/she will pay what it takes to keep him/her or they will go to where they will get paid. If said help isn't producing, they are probably being paid as such. No need for federally mandated minimum wage.

 

[Migrator Man]

Means that Big Mac is going to cost you 15 bucks and the dollar store will need to change its name to the two dollar store. What you think?

I’m pretty sure my local McDonald’s is already paying $14 an hour. This will not hurt the corporations but say goodbye to the mom and pop establishments especially in rural communities...... I guess no job is better that a minimum wage job in a cheap cost of living community.

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There'll be fewer of those jobs, they'll go the way of the "Full Service" line @ the gas station. If a grocery store intends to have say 10 lines open, they'll have 2-3 baggers instead of 10 and they'll charge for it. Want your groceries bagged? $5.

That’s why there are self checkouts, just there will be even more of them with less jobs for young folks....

 

[JMF]

I'm sure the administration and all of their wisdom will just subsidize the small business owners so they can afford to pay the higher wages. I doubt this will effect the middle class in any way :::

 

[Traxion]

The effects will be far reaching. I believe there are certainly jobs that adults are doing that are not fairly paid. Living wage can be difficult to define though. A family with two adults and a couple kids certainly can't make it today on two minimum wages jobs. Yet, because a kid is in HS working at McDonalds, does that mean he/she should get paid less than an adult doing the same job? But, I also believe you shouldn't think you can do little and get by if you are very poor at your job. But, then what do we do with many of these people? There are certainly workers out there who just don't cut it on the job. Mostly their fault, but there are legitimately those who just struggle to do a job. If you've ever supervised anyone, it's not hard to let go the guy who doesn't try and screws around all day. But the person who gives their all and still can't get it done is really hard to let go.

Bottom line is that we in American must be willing to face higher prices for everything if we want higher minimum wages and Made in USA products. We can't compete with China in manufacturing and frankly automation is better than many of our workers. I believe we're at a tipping point in which we've either got to decide to take on that burden of higher costs or we're going to end up subsidizing a not so insignificant percentage of our population because we won't have jobs for them. And I don't know how to change that?

 

[deleted member]

http://amhill.net/2016/08/04/minimum-wage-vs-cost-of-living/
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This article has lots of information

Caveat... I offer no opinion as to his opinions. But, the information appears to be accurate.

 

[Traxion]

http://amhill.net/2016/08/04/minimum-wage-vs-cost-of-living/
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This article has lots of information

Caveat... I offer no opinion as to his opinions. But, the information appears to be accurate.

Seems like fairly neutral data used. Good read, thanks for posting.

 

[Allen]

No opinion on the article, but I've always held that if you are 20-something and working for the minimum wage, you have made some serious career errors.