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<blockquote data-quote="db-2" data-source="post: 347630" data-attributes="member: 4743">Some of you know my discussions with the elk and game and fish in the Turtle Mt.&nbsp; My last visit with them was last spring when they requested to give out my name to various elk hunters and to aid them.&nbsp; Well i only have the 1.8 acres but do have friends that have in the fall from 200-300 elk herded up on their land. &nbsp;So what the hell and i will make that decisions when and if i am requested by someone.But i have also decided to quit calling game and fish on this as i found out my name has been brought up in their conversations in Bismarck.&nbsp; And they do not believe me and have no intention of listening to me or do anything about the population up there.&nbsp; So be it and the goal for me is to get rid of the 100 or so elk who made their home on the 1.8 acres last winter. &nbsp;One of you did send a message to me to stop asking the government to help out and take care of my issue myself instead of begging them for help.&nbsp; I then realize what a i fool i had been.But as of late i&nbsp; notice that i had four of my evergreens hit on with horns and need to do something on my own now.Has anyone use the product call Natural Defense?Is so, does it work?I have about 4 acres up there in soybeans and some brassicas.&nbsp; Notice the beans have been heavy ate on so put a camera up today at 2:00.&nbsp; So far have had a cow with her twins and 3 bulls with this one the bigger on the three.&nbsp; Not sure on its size but i will assume for most in would be shootable.Any thoughts of that product.&nbsp; As i understand it will keep the elk off a small area around the tree.&nbsp; Hope to keep the whitetail around.DB</blockquote>

[QUOTE="db-2, post: 347630, member: 4743"] Some of you know my discussions with the elk and game and fish in the Turtle Mt. My last visit with them was last spring when they requested to give out my name to various elk hunters and to aid them. Well i only have the 1.8 acres but do have friends that have in the fall from 200-300 elk herded up on their land. So what the hell and i will make that decisions when and if i am requested by someone. But i have also decided to quit calling game and fish on this as i found out my name has been brought up in their conversations in Bismarck. And they do not believe me and have no intention of listening to me or do anything about the population up there. So be it and the goal for me is to get rid of the 100 or so elk who made their home on the 1.8 acres last winter. One of you did send a message to me to stop asking the government to help out and take care of my issue myself instead of begging them for help. I then realize what a i fool i had been. But as of late i notice that i had four of my evergreens hit on with horns and need to do something on my own now. Has anyone use the product call Natural Defense? Is so, does it work? I have about 4 acres up there in soybeans and some brassicas. Notice the beans have been heavy ate on so put a camera up today at 2:00. So far have had a cow with her twins and 3 bulls with this one the bigger on the three. Not sure on its size but i will assume for most in would be shootable. Any thoughts of that product. As i understand it will keep the elk off a small area around the tree. Hope to keep the whitetail around. DB [/QUOTE]

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