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Fritz the Cat

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In terms of Saudi Arabia….you serious Clark?
Yes, John D. Rockefeller or Standard Oil beat out their competition by any means possible monopolizing the industry to the point government had to enact anti-trust laws.

He went to Saudi Arabia and together they formed ARAMCO.

Right now the U.N. Climate Change Conference is happening in Baku Azerbaijan. Al Gore just had a rant. (google it) Bidens White House aide John Podesta and Secretary of Ag Tom Vilsack are there.

The Rockefeller Foundation help fund the UN Climate Change Conference.

https://www.rockefellerfoundation.o...lerates-funding-climate-action-in-first-year/

The Rockefeller Foundation gives plenty to the Wilderness society who want monument and park status to curtail American extraction.
 


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Yes, John D. Rockefeller or Standard Oil beat out their competition by any means possible monopolizing the industry to the point government had to enact anti-trust laws.

He went to Saudi Arabia and together they formed ARAMCO.

Right now the U.N. Climate Change Conference is happening in Baku Azerbaijan. Al Gore just had a rant. (google it) Bidens White House aide John Podesta and Secretary of Ag Tom Vilsack are there.

The Rockefeller Foundation help fund the UN Climate Change Conference.

https://www.rockefellerfoundation.o...lerates-funding-climate-action-in-first-year/

The Rockefeller Foundation gives plenty to the Wilderness society who want monument and park status to curtail American extraction.
Interesting.

I apologize, but in all honesty, I don’t know enough about the Rockefellers to be able to comment or add anything.

I’ve never worked with or communicated with the wilderness society, so I can’t really comment on them either.
 

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All that shit sounds awesome. If any one counts on social security for retirement you’re a fool. If it’s there cool if not cool but if that is what it is funding I’m down. Now find a way to delete ethanol and wind and solar farms and we’re talking .
As impossible as it sounds, ethanol wind and solar are in oil companies' portfolios.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...re-walking-back-from-green-energy/ar-AA1uhqQd

I live in the middle of coal country. Large transmission lines going out. Wind energy needs to build close to those transmission lines to move their production. From my yard I can see the towers 4 miles away. Did it ruin my viewshed, not really.

A new company, 49 Wind wants to put in 100 towers Golden Valley to Hazen. They had a public meeting, served food and then gave the schpeel. They don't come into a hostile environment to get beat up. They are there to listen to concerns and then mitigate those concerns later.

There are more then 1000 people employed north of Beulah at $50 dollars per hour. The transmission lines are full. If 49 Wind puts their power in those lines, the coal fired plants and mines will have to throttle back. People will lose jobs, and the community will go backwards.

Strangely absent, there were no management or CEO's from Basin Electric at the meeting. Very telling.
 

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As impossible as it sounds, ethanol wind and solar are in oil companies' portfolios.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...re-walking-back-from-green-energy/ar-AA1uhqQd

I live in the middle of coal country. Large transmission lines going out. Wind energy needs to build close to those transmission lines to move their production. From my yard I can see the towers 4 miles away. Did it ruin my viewshed, not really.

A new company, 49 Wind wants to put in 100 towers Golden Valley to Hazen. They had a public meeting, served food and then gave the schpeel. They don't come into a hostile environment to get beat up. They are there to listen to concerns and then mitigate those concerns later.

There are more then 1000 people employed north of Beulah at $50 dollars per hour. The transmission lines are full. If 49 Wind puts their power in those lines, the coal fired plants and mines will have to throttle back. People will lose jobs, and the community will go backwards.

Strangely absent, there were no management or CEO's from Basin Electric at the meeting. Very telling.
You know all the wind towers south of Minot that were put in 2009-2010 owns those . Basin electric.

It the farce that they are good for the environment and the govt money they get because of it. They kill more birds than the bird flu every year.
 

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You know all the wind towers south of Minot that were put in 2009-2010 owns those . Basin electric.

It the farce that they are good for the environment and the govt money they get because of it. They kill more birds than the bird flu every year.
Remember, those power lines Fritz mentioned? Now remember who those powerlines serve: https://www.ncsl.org/energy/state-renewable-portfolio-standards-and-goals

Minnesota​

  • Title: Renewables Energy Standard.
  • Established: 2007.
  • Requirement: 55% by 2035. Also requires 100% clean energy by 2040.
  • Applicable Sectors: Investor-owned utility, municipal utilities, cooperative utilities.
  • Cost Cap: None.
  • Details: In 2023, Minnesota enacted HF 7 to update and extend the RPS requirement to 55% by 2035 from the goal of 25% by 2025. Solar: 1.5% by 2020. It also requires 100% of electric utilities’ total retail electric sales to be generated from carbon-free technologies by 2040.
  • Enabling Statute or Code: Minn. Stat. §216B.1691; HF 7 (2023)
 


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Remember, those power lines Fritz mentioned? Now remember who those powerlines serve: https://www.ncsl.org/energy/state-renewable-portfolio-standards-and-goals

Minnesota​

  • Title: Renewables Energy Standard.
  • Established: 2007.
  • Requirement: 55% by 2035. Also requires 100% clean energy by 2040.
  • Applicable Sectors: Investor-owned utility, municipal utilities, cooperative utilities.
  • Cost Cap: None.
  • Details: In 2023, Minnesota enacted HF 7 to update and extend the RPS requirement to 55% by 2035 from the goal of 25% by 2025. Solar: 1.5% by 2020. It also requires 100% of electric utilities’ total retail electric sales to be generated from carbon-free technologies by 2040.
  • Enabling Statute or Code: Minn. Stat. §216B.1691; HF 7 (2023)
Yep,
I worked at the coal mine for 28 years. The fines went to Basin Electric and lump coal went to Dakota Gas. The gas went into a pipeline for Chicago. We heated a large percentage of Chicago. The people there voted for Obama who said in so many words coal is the devil. Ungrateful idiots.

There absolutely could not be a disruption in service. Shift work 5 am to 3 pm or 3pm to 1 am. One night it was blowing cold and snowing hard. They needed someone to stay over and operate blade keeping roads open. I volunteered. At 3 am heading home 4 wheel drive pickups drove down the middle of the road and it was blown shut. My little Ford Ranger would be high center so I drove on the shoulder.

Had to keep momentum up to slide over drifts and snow would get into the alternator dimming the lights. When it would kick in again the belt would squeal and things would get bright until the next drift. 20 miles of that. We were dedicated.
 

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Interesting.

I apologize, but in all honesty, I don’t know enough about the Rockefellers to be able to comment or add anything.

I’ve never worked with or communicated with the wilderness society, so I can’t really comment on them either.

The wilderness society likes creating national monuments. They shouldn't be very far away.

Advocates push for President Biden to designate the Maah Daah Hey as a National Monument​


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BISMARCK, N.D. (KFYR) - A group of North Dakotans is asking President Biden to designate the Maah Daah Hey as a National Monument before Jan. 20, 2025, using the Antiques Act.

Badlands Conservation Alliance Executive Director Shannon Straight said the designation would recognize, preserve and protect the ancestral land of the Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara people of North Dakota. It would also preserve and protect more than 139,000 acres on 11 parcels of land managed right now by the U.S. Forest Service.


“We want to be clear at the onset today, this is not a proposal about a land grab, we think of this more as re-designating the Badlands landscape,” said Straight.

Straight said another area this will preserve and protect if designated is the dwindling grasslands of western North Dakota, used by ranchers who graze their cattle there. He said the monument would also protect vital habitats and preserve the rugged landscape for those who recreate in the badlands.
 


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Biden is in a lame duck period. Allen, what do you think of designating another national monument in rush before Trump is sworn in?

Never given it much thought, but last time I checked there are parts of the Maah Daah Hey on private land. That should be a pretty good stumbling block.
 

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Maah Daah Hey trail becoming a national monument is horse crap. We have preservationists who are mostly anti hunters on one side of us and ranchers who want to own the land and keep out anyone who doesn't pay them on the other side of us. If it isn't broke dont fix it.
 

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Maah Daah Hey trail becoming a national monument is horse crap. We have preservationists who are mostly anti hunters on one side of us and ranchers who want to own the land and keep out anyone who doesn't pay them on the other side of us. If it isn't broke dont fix it.
The word preserve appears four times below. The fellow in the upper left corner of this picture is John Bradley, executive director of the ND wildlife federation.


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BISMARCK, N.D. (KFYR) - A group of North Dakotans is asking President Biden to designate the Maah Daah Hey as a National Monument before Jan. 20, 2025, using the Antiques Act.

Badlands Conservation Alliance Executive Director Shannon Straight said the designation would recognize, preserve and protect the ancestral land of the Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara people of North Dakota. It would also preserve and protect more than 139,000 acres on 11 parcels of land managed right now by the U.S. Forest Service.


“We want to be clear at the onset today, this is not a proposal about a land grab, we think of this more as re-designating the Badlands landscape,” said Straight.

Straight said another area this will preserve and protect if designated is the dwindling grasslands of western North Dakota, used by ranchers who graze their cattle there. He said the monument would also protect vital habitats and preserve the rugged landscape for those who recreate in the badlands.
 

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preserve the rugged landscape for those who recreate in the badlands.
I notice he was careful to say recreate not hunt. They would wait a couple years then their vegan nut job sister organizations would find some fault with hunting.
Beware the preservationists and befriend the conservationist.
 

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Interesting.

I apologize, but in all honesty, I don’t know enough about the Rockefellers to be able to comment or add anything.

I’ve never worked with or communicated with the wilderness society, so I can’t really comment on them either.
Funny how that works. I mentioned the Wilderness Society and...............................................

Biden-Public Lands Director

Biden-Public Lands Director© Alex Brandon
BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) — A senior official in President Joe Biden's administration who oversaw its contentious efforts to address climate change by curbing oil drilling and coal mining on federal lands while expanding renewable power was named Tuesday as the next president of a prominent environmental group.



U.S. Bureau of Land Management Director Tracy Stone-Manning will become president of The Wilderness Society effective next February, the Washington, D.C.-based group announced.

The land bureau shifted sharply away from fossil fuel extraction during her tenure, including two decisions released Tuesday that end new federal coal sales from the nation's most productive reserves of the fuel along the Wyoming-Montana border.

Stone-Manning's 2021 nomination by Biden was bitterly opposed by Republicans who labeled her an “eco-terrorist” over her past ties with environmental extremists. Senate Democrats pushed through her confirmation on a party-line vote.

The land bureau has jurisdiction over almost a quarter-billion acres (100 million hectares) of land, primarily in western states, that is used for oil exploration, mining, livestock grazing, recreation and other purposes.


Under Stone-Manning the bureau sharply reduced oil and gas lease sales and raised royalty rates that companies must pay to extract the fuel. It also issued a rule elevating the importance of conservation, by making it a “use” of public lands on par with drilling or grazing.

That marked a sharp departure from the land bureau's longstanding reputation for favoring commercial development over environmental preservation.

The moves drew pushback from the energy, mining and ranching industries and Republican in Congress. They have vowed to undo actions taken by Stone-Manning when the GOP assumes control in Washington next year as a result of its 2024 election wins.

Wyoming Gov. Mark Gordon said the decision to end coal leasing in the Powder River Basin area of northeast Wyoming and southeast Montana would have devastating economic effects. The Republican accused the Biden administration of a “crusade” against coal and said he would work with his state's congressional delegation to reverse it.

“This is not a balanced resource management strategy, but an anti-fossil fuel, politically-motivated action taken before the door slams on this administration,” Gordon said in a statement.

The land bureau under Biden also approved new solar and wind power projects and opened more public lands to renewable energy development.

It is uncertain if the changes will last.

Rep. Raul Grijalva, a Democrat from Arizona, praised the work done by Stone-Manning on renewable energy, but added that it could be “completely undone” by the next administration.

“Whether it’s through rock-bottom royalty rates, rigged rulemaking, or stripped environmental protections, our public lands will soon be a profit playground for the rich,” said Grijalva, the ranking Democrat on the House Natural Resources Committee.

President-elect Donald Trump has pledged to drop Biden’s climate and energy policies in a bid to increase oil and gas production that is already at record levels. He has nominated North Dakota Republican Gov. Doug Burgum to lead the Interior Department, which includes the Bureau of Land Management. Oil industry representatives and Republicans from energy states cheered Burgum’s nomination.


Before joining the administration, Stone-Manning worked as a senior aide to Montana Democrats U.S. Sen. Jon Tester and Gov. Steve Bullock. Her nomination by Biden sparked intense Republican opposition because of Stone-Manning's involvement in a 1989 environmental sabotage case.

As a 23-year-old graduate student at the University of Montana, Stone-Manning sent a letter to federal officials in 1989 saying spikes had been inserted into trees in an Idaho national forest, a tactic sometimes used to halt timber sales.

Two men were criminally charged, and Stone-Manning testified against them. She was given immunity and never charged with crimes, although an investigator later said she had stonewalled the probe.

After Tester and moderate Sen. Joe Manchin defended her, Stone-Manning was confirmed on a 50-45 vote.

The bureau's headquarters were relocated to Colorado under Trump and hundreds of employees resigned or retired before it was returned to Washington, D.C., under Biden.


Interior Secretary Deb Haaland's chief of staff, Rachael Taylor, said in a statement that Stone-Manning had reshaped the bureau after it was “damaged” by the relocation. Taylor said Stone-Manning also helped restore balance to public lands decisions and made sure Native American tribes have a role in managing their homelands.

Trump has not announced his nominee to lead the land bureau. During the Republican's first-term, it went without a Senate-confirmed director. Trump instead used acting directors who did not have to go before the Senate to advance his policies.
 


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White House advisor John Podesta was sent to Baku Azerbaijan for the U.N. meeting.

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This guy worked for Bill Clinton, Obama, Hillary and Biden.

In his current role as senior advisor to President Biden, Podesta oversees the disbursement of $370–783 billion in clean energy tax credits and incentives authorized by the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022

Funny how I mention this guy and bam........

Biden Admin Bans Future Leasing In Top Coal Mining Region On Thanksgiving Eve​


Aerial photo of water holding ponds on private and public lands in the Tongue River and Powder River area of northern Wyoming near the Montana border. (Photo by William Campbell/Sygma via Getty Images)

Aerial photo of water holding ponds on private and public lands in the Tongue River and Powder River area of northern Wyoming near the Montana border. (Photo by William Campbell/Sygma via Getty Images)© The Daily Caller
The Biden administration moved on Thanksgiving eve to bar future coal leasing in the Powder River Basin, one of America’s most coal-rich regions, according to multiple reports.

The Powder River Basin, a region that spans parts of Montana and Wyoming, accounted for about 43% of U.S. coal in 2019, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. The administration made its move to formally end coal leasing in the area and roll back previous approvals for development plans on Wednesday as Americans prepared to enjoy the Thanksgiving holiday, according to E&E News.


“The decision is to make no federal coal available for future leasing,” Todd Yeager, the field manager for the Buffalo office of the Bureau of Land Management, wrote in a filing announcing the move, according to E&E News. Yeager added that the decision will take about 48 billion short tons of coal off the table for mining and development.

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John Podesta, CCP Official To Discuss Climate Cooperation Amid Chinese Coal Binge

The Trump administration, set to officially assume power in January 2025, is likely to walk back Wednesday’s moves when they get the chance to do so, according to The Hill. The Biden administration signaled that it could be moving to end coal leasing in the Powder River Basin in May when it released its proposal.


Republican Wyoming Sen. John Barrasso slammed the administration’s choice to end future coal leasing in the Powder River Basin, according to The Hill.

“After the American people issued a stunning rebuke to President Biden, he continues to punish Wyoming communities,” said Barrasso. “I will work with President Trump and his team to reverse this and other midnight regulations.”

Senator John Barrasso should go after the pretend public lands' sportsmen-controlled opposition orgs funded by democrat foundations pushing this agenda.
 

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Trump will overturn this day one. Wonder what org he’s referring too? 🤔 one thats pushing a cwd narrative perhaps 😳



“Senator John Barrasso should go after the pretend public lands' sportsmen-controlled opposition orgs funded by democrat foundations pushing this agenda”
 

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Trump will overturn this day one. Wonder what org he’s referring too? 🤔 one thats pushing a cwd narrative perhaps 😳



“Senator John Barrasso should go after the pretend public lands' sportsmen-controlled opposition orgs funded by democrat foundations pushing this agenda”
I wrote that last sentence.

Some of you remember a non-profit called ACT-UP. AIDS activists. They broke into chambers during Congressional hearings because they wanted money to help with AIDS. They demonstrated at the National Institute of Health because they felt Anthony Fauci and company were not working hard enough on promised research and treatment.

They were pawns. When their org had served its purpose, the establishment stopped funding them and they went away.
 

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Op-Ed: Bah humbug to excessive federal land management​


A welcome sign between the Montana-Wyoming border. ©Derek Draplin / The Center Square

A welcome sign between the Montana-Wyoming border. ©Derek Draplin / The Center Square© The Center Square
The federal government aptly fills the role of Ebenezer Scrooge in the ongoing production of western land management. In the words of Charles Dickens, “he was a tight-fisted hand at the grindstone … a squeezing, wrenching, grasping, scraping, clutching, covetous, old sinner!”


This holiday season, Utah wants control over the millions of acres of “unappropriated” land within their state, currently managed by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). In August, Utah filed a lawsuit asking the United States government to decide if the federal government has the legal authority to hold unappropriated lands within the state indefinitely. This lawsuit excludes the millions of appropriated acres within the state already designated as national parks, forests, and monuments, wilderness areas, tribal lands, and military properties.

Federal land ownership dominates the West. Over 60% of Alaska is federally owned and the rest of the 11 contiguous western states have 45% federal ownership. A sharp contrast to the eastern states where federal ownership amounts to 4%. The most frustrating issue for the western states is that almost half of this acreage is unappropriated. Unappropriated ground is managed by the BLM, sitting in limbo, inefficiently utilized, and horribly underserved because of the overwhelming volume of acreage. Romantically imagining the federal government as a proactive, efficient and conservation-minded manager is as foolish as asking Scrooge for a donation – Bah humbug!


Early America was shaped by the principle that “ownership of property gave not only economic independence but also political independence to the average American.” George Washington wrote, “An enterprising man with very little money may lay the foundation of a noble estate.” This was the generous philosophy instilled in early American land management policies. But as western states obtained statehood, public lands were trusted to the national interest with the promise that eventually the federal government would sell these lands back. That never happened.

Federal shackles were tolerated initially, because early conservationists like Theodore Roosevelt believed active land management involved local interests. Good intentions were spoiled when out-of-state narratives overwhelmed the local voices, slandering the communities who lived and worked with these resources. Environmentalists criminalized local communities, motivating laws and administrative rules which have held public lands hostage for decades, for the mental well-being of a few people who rarely or never visit these areas.

These policies were an “all-purpose tool for stopping economic activity.” Wilderness acreage rose more than 716% between the 1960s and 1980 and grazing use plummeted. In 1976, the interests of local communities were completely erased from policy considerations with the passing of the Federal Land Policy and Management Act, which enshrined all public lands into federal oversight for perpetuity.

Today, western communities and taxpayers face the culmination of these decisions, living next to public lands stifled by protection and resembling the opposite of any imagined picturesque landscape. New growth of trees is 48% of mortality, and of those dying trees only 11% are harvested. Instead, federal lands are consumed by wildfires and disease, with fire size averaging five times that of nonfederal lands.

Taxpayers are also forced to fund federal inefficiency when every dollar spent on federal land returns only $0.73 and state lands have revenue of $14.51 per dollar spent, with just a fraction of the land base. Anemic timber sales and other resource harvesting, combined with the lack of federal fiscal obligation, starves rural communities from economic opportunity and school systems from abundant funding.


Public lands yet to come will see more land lost, western communities fall into deeper levels of poverty, and America struggles to compete with foreign resources because environmental activists have a stranglehold on our domestic interests. This stranglehold has choked off access for rural communities since the 1970s and is now suffocating the environmental prosperity of the public lands themselves. Along with Scrooge, western communities ask, “Are these the shadows of the things that will be, or are they shadows of things that may be, only?”

In recent years, about 20 states have attempted to obtain more local control over federal lands but have met with little success. Utah’s lawsuit against the federal government is the latest attempt to introduce the early values of America back into the public land discussion. Though concern looms over selling public lands for profits, the West needs a solution that fosters more state influence in public land decisions.

Federal generosity would foster local management and influence on public lands, allowing western lands to become a thriving environmental and economic opportunity that will “bless us, everyone!”

NDA.........we have several public land upstart non-profit orgs funded.
 


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