ND Joins Utah Lawsuit

[Fritz the Cat]

In terms of Saudi Arabia….you serious Clark?

Yes, John D. Rockefeller or Standard Oil beat out their competition by any means possible monopolizing the industry to the point government had to enact anti-trust laws.

He went to Saudi Arabia and together they formed ARAMCO.

Right now the U.N. Climate Change Conference is happening in Baku Azerbaijan. Al Gore just had a rant. (google it) Bidens White House aide John Podesta and Secretary of Ag Tom Vilsack are there.

The Rockefeller Foundation help fund the UN Climate Change Conference.

https://www.rockefellerfoundation.o...lerates-funding-climate-action-in-first-year/

The Rockefeller Foundation gives plenty to the Wilderness society who want monument and park status to curtail American extraction.

 

[BrockW]

Yes, John D. Rockefeller or Standard Oil beat out their competition by any means possible monopolizing the industry to the point government had to enact anti-trust laws.

He went to Saudi Arabia and together they formed ARAMCO.

Right now the U.N. Climate Change Conference is happening in Baku Azerbaijan. Al Gore just had a rant. (google it) Bidens White House aide John Podesta and Secretary of Ag Tom Vilsack are there.

The Rockefeller Foundation help fund the UN Climate Change Conference.

https://www.rockefellerfoundation.o...lerates-funding-climate-action-in-first-year/

The Rockefeller Foundation gives plenty to the Wilderness society who want monument and park status to curtail American extraction.

Interesting.

I apologize, but in all honesty, I don’t know enough about the Rockefellers to be able to comment or add anything.

I’ve never worked with or communicated with the wilderness society, so I can’t really comment on them either.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

All that shit sounds awesome. If any one counts on social security for retirement you’re a fool. If it’s there cool if not cool but if that is what it is funding I’m down. Now find a way to delete ethanol and wind and solar farms and we’re talking .

As impossible as it sounds, ethanol wind and solar are in oil companies' portfolios.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...re-walking-back-from-green-energy/ar-AA1uhqQd

I live in the middle of coal country. Large transmission lines going out. Wind energy needs to build close to those transmission lines to move their production. From my yard I can see the towers 4 miles away. Did it ruin my viewshed, not really.

A new company, 49 Wind wants to put in 100 towers Golden Valley to Hazen. They had a public meeting, served food and then gave the schpeel. They don't come into a hostile environment to get beat up. They are there to listen to concerns and then mitigate those concerns later.

There are more then 1000 people employed north of Beulah at $50 dollars per hour. The transmission lines are full. If 49 Wind puts their power in those lines, the coal fired plants and mines will have to throttle back. People will lose jobs, and the community will go backwards.

Strangely absent, there were no management or CEO's from Basin Electric at the meeting. Very telling.

 

[Kurtr]

As impossible as it sounds, ethanol wind and solar are in oil companies' portfolios.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...re-walking-back-from-green-energy/ar-AA1uhqQd

I live in the middle of coal country. Large transmission lines going out. Wind energy needs to build close to those transmission lines to move their production. From my yard I can see the towers 4 miles away. Did it ruin my viewshed, not really.

A new company, 49 Wind wants to put in 100 towers Golden Valley to Hazen. They had a public meeting, served food and then gave the schpeel. They don't come into a hostile environment to get beat up. They are there to listen to concerns and then mitigate those concerns later.

There are more then 1000 people employed north of Beulah at $50 dollars per hour. The transmission lines are full. If 49 Wind puts their power in those lines, the coal fired plants and mines will have to throttle back. People will lose jobs, and the community will go backwards.

Strangely absent, there were no management or CEO's from Basin Electric at the meeting. Very telling.

You know all the wind towers south of Minot that were put in 2009-2010 owns those . Basin electric.

It the farce that they are good for the environment and the govt money they get because of it. They kill more birds than the bird flu every year.

 

[Allen]

You know all the wind towers south of Minot that were put in 2009-2010 owns those . Basin electric.

It the farce that they are good for the environment and the govt money they get because of it. They kill more birds than the bird flu every year.

Remember, those power lines Fritz mentioned? Now remember who those powerlines serve: https://www.ncsl.org/energy/state-renewable-portfolio-standards-and-goals

Minnesota​

• Title: Renewables Energy Standard.
• Established: 2007.
• Requirement: 55% by 2035. Also requires 100% clean energy by 2040.
• Applicable Sectors: Investor-owned utility, municipal utilities, cooperative utilities.
• Cost Cap: None.
• Details: In 2023, Minnesota enacted HF 7 to update and extend the RPS requirement to 55% by 2035 from the goal of 25% by 2025. Solar: 1.5% by 2020. It also requires 100% of electric utilities’ total retail electric sales to be generated from carbon-free technologies by 2040.
• Enabling Statute or Code: Minn. Stat. §216B.1691; HF 7 (2023)

 

[Fritz the Cat]

I remember those well.

They toppled them over March of 2022.

https://www.basinelectric.com/News-Center/news-releases/Basin-Electrics-first-wind-turbines-fall

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Remember, those power lines Fritz mentioned? Now remember who those powerlines serve: https://www.ncsl.org/energy/state-renewable-portfolio-standards-and-goals

Minnesota​

• Title: Renewables Energy Standard.
• Established: 2007.
• Requirement: 55% by 2035. Also requires 100% clean energy by 2040.
• Applicable Sectors: Investor-owned utility, municipal utilities, cooperative utilities.
• Cost Cap: None.
• Details: In 2023, Minnesota enacted HF 7 to update and extend the RPS requirement to 55% by 2035 from the goal of 25% by 2025. Solar: 1.5% by 2020. It also requires 100% of electric utilities’ total retail electric sales to be generated from carbon-free technologies by 2040.
• Enabling Statute or Code: Minn. Stat. §216B.1691; HF 7 (2023)

Yep,
I worked at the coal mine for 28 years. The fines went to Basin Electric and lump coal went to Dakota Gas. The gas went into a pipeline for Chicago. We heated a large percentage of Chicago. The people there voted for Obama who said in so many words coal is the devil. Ungrateful idiots.

There absolutely could not be a disruption in service. Shift work 5 am to 3 pm or 3pm to 1 am. One night it was blowing cold and snowing hard. They needed someone to stay over and operate blade keeping roads open. I volunteered. At 3 am heading home 4 wheel drive pickups drove down the middle of the road and it was blown shut. My little Ford Ranger would be high center so I drove on the shoulder.

Had to keep momentum up to slide over drifts and snow would get into the alternator dimming the lights. When it would kick in again the belt would squeal and things would get bright until the next drift. 20 miles of that. We were dedicated.

 

[Fritz the Cat]

Interesting.

I apologize, but in all honesty, I don’t know enough about the Rockefellers to be able to comment or add anything.

I’ve never worked with or communicated with the wilderness society, so I can’t really comment on them either.

The wilderness society likes creating national monuments. They shouldn't be very far away. ​

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Advocates push for President Biden to designate the Maah Daah Hey as a National Monument​

BISMARCK, N.D. (KFYR) - A group of North Dakotans is asking President Biden to designate the Maah Daah Hey as a National Monument before Jan. 20, 2025, using the Antiques Act.

Badlands Conservation Alliance Executive Director Shannon Straight said the designation would recognize, preserve and protect the ancestral land of the Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara people of North Dakota. It would also preserve and protect more than 139,000 acres on 11 parcels of land managed right now by the U.S. Forest Service.


“We want to be clear at the onset today, this is not a proposal about a land grab, we think of this more as re-designating the Badlands landscape,” said Straight.

Straight said another area this will preserve and protect if designated is the dwindling grasslands of western North Dakota, used by ranchers who graze their cattle there. He said the monument would also protect vital habitats and preserve the rugged landscape for those who recreate in the badlands.

 

[Allen]

Would I be correct in assuming you are not in favor?