New Garage Build

[Obi-Wan]

don't know the official name, but a shop house is what i would call it...

looking at a 50x100 red iron steel building with 1/2 finished as house (50x50), and the other 1/2 as shop... 16' sidewalls with a 14' door along with smaller ones in the shop, and 5000 finished square feet (2 story) on the house side... will have floor heat and all insulated with floor drains in the shop...

You may find out that will the full foundation that should be put in steel bldg. that this may not be as cheap as you think. 5000 sq ft @
$ 40 to $ 50 - sq ft you are looking at $ 200,000.00 to $ 250,000.00 for the insulated shell and then you will still have to finish out the interior house portion

I believe most of the shop/house buildings you see use wood pole barns that don't have a foundation just a interior slab and many areas will not allow for living areas

 

[raider]

You may find out that will the full foundation that should be put in steel bldg. that this may not be as cheap as you think. 5000 sq ft @
$ 40 to $ 50 - sq ft you are looking at $ 200,000.00 to $ 250,000.00 for the insulated shell and then you will still have to finish out the interior house portion

I believe most of the shop/house buildings you see use wood pole barns that don't have a foundation just a interior slab and many areas will not allow for living areas

how bout what i described with footings - turn key - for 220k on my dirt???

due diligence...

 

[Obi-Wan]

how bout what i described with footings - turn key - for 220k on my dirt???

due diligence...

Are you saying you are getting a 5000 sq ft steel building with 5,000 sq ft living space finished ( 2 floors ) complete including footings and 4' foundation walls turn key for $ 44 / sq ft $ 44 could cover the building but would not be the building and living quarters.

 

[raider]

Are you saying you are getting a 5000 sq ft steel building with 5,000 sq ft living space finished ( 2 floors ) complete including footings and 4' foundation walls turn key for $ 44 / sq ft


YES!!!

 

[thriller1]

If'n I was to do it again I would like something other than plywood/ OSB/drywall for the inside. I did OSB and its ok but maybe coragated steel so I would never have to paint?

 

[Obi-Wan]

Are you saying you are getting a 5000 sq ft steel building with 5,000 sq ft living space finished ( 2 floors ) complete including footings and 4' foundation walls turn key for $ 44 / sq ft


YES!!!

Ok. let us know how that works out for you

 

[eyexer]

Sorry Raider not happening bud. Building permit at $1800 and Rural water hookup at $3500 along kicks you in the nuts before you ever dick a yard of dirt. You'll have 50k in concrete work I'd bet unless your doing it yourself.

 

[Davy Crockett]

If I were to go with steel interior I'd want some type of acoustic panels, My ears are shot and I have a hard time trying to have a conversation in a large metal interior building. For me that would be the only negative of steel interior.

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Sorry Raider not happening bud. Building permit at $1800 and Rural water hookup at $3500 along kicks you in the nuts before you ever dick a yard of dirt. You'll have 50k in concrete work I'd bet unless your doing it yourself.

Haha I'm usually not one that corrects people on spelling, Grammar or English but along dick seems out of place in this particular conversation.

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danm auto connect

 

[raider]

hahahaha...

price assumes services to the lot with a graded build site - which i can do... also includes builder grade finishes - which i'm fine with...

i've been down this road b4... built houses and buildings from the ground up - i know the drill... fwiw, i asked all the same questions some of you have been cuz it seems too good to b true... i know the builder (past customer) and his work, and he doesn't use the "bakken scale"...

 

[Obi-Wan]

hahahaha...

price assumes services to the lot with a graded build site - which i can do... also includes builder grade finishes - which i'm fine with...

i've been down this road b4... built houses and buildings from the ground up - i know the drill... fwiw, i asked all the same questions some of you have been cuz it seems too good to b true... i know the builder (past customer) and his work, and he doesn't use the "bakken scale"...

it has nothing to do with the Bakken scale you are probably going to $40 sq ft in materials

 

[raider]

it has nothing to do with the Bakken scale you are probably going to $40 sq ft in materials

k - you win... not going to argue...

i'm going to tour the 1 he is currently building by fargo with the customer this fall when it is completed...

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sorry bout the derail gsm - wasn't my intention... good luck on your build...

 

[eyexer]

If I were to go with steel interior I'd want some type of acoustic panels, My ears are shot and I have a hard time trying to have a conversation in a large metal interior building. For me that would be the only negative of steel interior.

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Haha I'm usually not one that corrects people on spelling, Grammar or English but along dick seems out of place in this particular conversation.

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danm auto connect

I watched a guy try to dick a yard of dirt once. ;:;rofl

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hahahaha...

price assumes services to the lot with a graded build site - which i can do... also includes builder grade finishes - which i'm fine with...

i've been down this road b4... built houses and buildings from the ground up - i know the drill... fwiw, i asked all the same questions some of you have been cuz it seems too good to b true... i know the builder (past customer) and his work, and he doesn't use the "bakken scale"...

where you building this at, around here? I can tell you the electrical alone in a steal building vs romex in a house will be substantially higher. Just your damn shop lights for 5000 sq. ft will be retarded lol. Building materials are up over 30% from a little over a year ago. I just built a house for a buddy with about 3600 sq. ft finished. Nothing elaborate. And we did it all ourselves except electrical. He has about 320K in it. About 45K more than what I figured because building materials went up so much during the build.

 

[Taylorman55]

You may find out that will the full foundation that should be put in steel bldg. that this may not be as cheap as you think. 5000 sq ft @
$ 40 to $ 50 - sq ft you are looking at $ 200,000.00 to $ 250,000.00 for the insulated shell and then you will still have to finish out the interior house portion

I believe most of the shop/house buildings you see use wood pole barns that don't have a foundation just a interior slab and many areas will not allow for living areas

I just received a quote on a red iron building. 60x100x16. Big insulated doors on each end (14x24 roll ups). Concrete footing the entire length and ends of building. Looking at $80,000. The 80x100x16 was $100,000. No insulation. Wainscoat green and white.

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I just received a quote on a red iron building. 60x100x16. Big insulated doors on each end (14x24 roll ups). Concrete footing the entire length and ends of building. Looking at $80,000. The 80x100x16 was $100,000. No insulation. Wainscoat green and white.

And for those wondering, a similar sized pole building. $65,000 and $80,000. Going from 60 wide down to 50 feet wide knocked the 100 footer down to around $57,000

 

[Davy Crockett]

I watched a guy try to dick a yard of dirt once. ;:;rofl/QUOTE]


Seine that too once, Talk about back off in the jack yard.

 

[Obi-Wan]

You say " concrete footing " is this footing and 4' foundation wall with pads and piers for the columns? Steel buildings have point loads and need more than just a standard footing?
Is this foundation engineered for the loads of the building and the capacity of the soils it will sit on?
Does this include concrete floor slab?
Is this a quote from a bldg. salesman with allowances for the other items or a quote from the actual guy that will be erecting the building?
There are building dealers out there that will put together a building price using allowances for all the other items other than the building and doors. Once the building is on the ground it is up to you to get it erected and will soon find out that the allowances given were no where near the amount needed.

I just received a quote on a red iron building. 60x100x16. Big insulated doors on each end (14x24 roll ups). Concrete footing the entire length and ends of building. Looking at $80,000. The 80x100x16 was $100,000. No insulation. Wainscoat green and white.

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And for those wondering, a similar sized pole building. $65,000 and $80,000. Going from 60 wide down to 50 feet wide knocked the 100 footer down to around $57,000

 

[Taylorman55]

You say " concrete footing " is this footing and 4' foundation wall with pads and piers for the columns? Steel buildings have point loads and need more than just a standard footing?
Is this foundation engineered for the loads of the building and the capacity of the soils it will sit on?
Does this include concrete floor slab?
Is this a quote from a bldg. salesman with allowances for the other items or a quote from the actual guy that will be erecting the building?
There are building dealers out there that will put together a building price using allowances for all the other items other than the building and doors. Once the building is on the ground it is up to you to get it erected and will soon find out that the allowances given were no where near the amount needed.

This is a quote from the builder himself. I priced out the similar building but with Morton (who are said to be the best of the best)... Morton came in about 30% more. Both buildings meet the required ND loads and then some. We've been in the process of looking at putting a building up like this for about 3-4 years. Lots of overpriced buildings out there, lots of shit hole underpriced ones also that have hidden costs. This is a dirt floor building (no slab) to be used as storage and probably a horse riding arena in the winter.