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And the 1-1 record in the playoffs in the six seasons Cousins was in Minnesota, which exactly matches Keenum's Viking playoff record, is proof that Keenum did not deserve a second season, just to see if he could do it again as a Viking right? Same shit, different day.
 

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And the 1-1 record in the playoffs in the six seasons Cousins was in Minnesota, which exactly matches Keenum's Viking playoff record, is proof that Keenum did not deserve a second season, just to see if he could do it again as a Viking right? Same shit, different day.
His play 100 % proved when he left he was a back up at best. If he was good enough to be a starter why did he never get to any other play off games? With out a miracle he would have been part of one of the biggest collapse in play off history. Then he went to Philly and completely shit the bed. With Kenum Vikings wouldn’t have even been competitive and getting to the play offs and it’s not even an opinion it’s fact backed with his play as a starter in Denver.

Viking did not commit to Jj as the starter next year in end of season press conference get ready go A rodg to roll into town in September
 


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ya all be thinking Super Bowl again next year....just like every other year you dont make the playoffs, GO BEARS!!!! Best LGBTQB1 in the league!!
 

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Arodg should have been here last yr and let the cripple walk the sidelines behind him
It would have been fun watching him SCREAM at the O-line on the sidelines all season on their way to a 5-12 record like the Jets the year before. But then hey, the more losses the better the draft picks right?
 

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His play 100 % proved when he left he was a back up at best. If he was good enough to be a starter why did he never get to any other play off games? With out a miracle he would have been part of one of the biggest collapse in play off history. Then he went to Philly and completely shit the bed. With Kenum Vikings wouldn’t have even been competitive and getting to the play offs and it’s not even an opinion it’s fact backed with his play as a starter in Denver.

Viking did not commit to Jj as the starter next year in end of season press conference get ready go A rodg to roll into town in September
Sure, and yet that one season in the Vikings got him job offer after job offer. To the point he is in the playoffs this year. Now imagine, if you can, him staying in that Viking system a couple of more years. Sighting in a rifle is a three shot group. To find the middle. He deserved a second season, maybe a third, just to see if 13-3 in the Vikings system, was a fluke like you are saying it was. I knew, 100%, that Kirk Cousins was not the super bowl trophy answer, and signing him still pisses me off. We wasted six years with him, what difference would two more with Keenum have made. That is all I am saying.
 


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Sure, and yet that one season in the Vikings got him job offer after job offer. To the point he is in the playoffs this year. Now imagine, if you can, him staying in that Viking system a couple of more years. Sighting in a rifle is a three shot group. To find the middle. He deserved a second season, maybe a third, just to see if 13-3 in the Vikings system, was a fluke like you are saying it was. I knew, 100%, that Kirk Cousins was not the super bowl trophy answer, and signing him still pisses me off. We wasted six years with him, what difference would two more with Keenum have made. That is all I am saying.
And just keep saying it doesn’t make it true. Being a back up and not playing at all in a season and not contributing doesn’t count as making the play offs. The track records of back ups who came in did good then got contracts and flopped the following years is well documented. Scott Mitchell came in for Marino went to lions sucked. Matt Flynn from packers to Seattle and lost job to rookie Russel Wilson . Brock Oswieler as mannings back up played well a few games went to Houston and sucked it up. Mike Glennon went from Tampa after playing well a few games and went to the panthers a flop. Kenum did exactly what the others did who flashed played a good few games and then back to back up status. Maybe there were better options at the time than Cousins but it definitely wasn’t Kenum. Hell they could have drafted mahomes or Lamar but passed on them like a bunch of other teams.
 

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Keenum got bailed out the whole season by the wide receivers. I've never seen a QB who routinely through into coverage, or just toss it up in the air to avoid a sack, get as lucky as he did that year. He didn't stick as QB1 in Minneapolis because the coaches saw it as well.

His style of play sure made it exciting football for the fans though.
 

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You keep missing my point. Actually kind of making it, by naming backups who flashed good and immediately went somewhere else and the flash was gone. What if they had stayed put is my point. And l get its a business, with a short window of opportunity, so why not cash in where and when you can, but if a team wins 13 games in an NFL season, common sense says to try and keep it together and try it again. Or not l guess.
Moss and Carter made old man Cunningham look good. In 98 and he was just throwing it out there.
 

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And just keep saying it doesn’t make it true. Being a back up and not playing at all in a season and not contributing doesn’t count as making the play offs. The track records of back ups who came in did good then got contracts and flopped the following years is well documented. Scott Mitchell came in for Marino went to lions sucked. Matt Flynn from packers to Seattle and lost job to rookie Russel Wilson . Brock Oswieler as mannings back up played well a few games went to Houston and sucked it up. Mike Glennon went from Tampa after playing well a few games and went to the panthers a flop. Kenum did exactly what the others did who flashed played a good few games and then back to back up status. Maybe there were better options at the time than Cousins but it definitely wasn’t Kenum. Hell they could have drafted mahomes or Lamar but passed on them like a bunch of other teams.
I can agree with most of this. Your hatred for Wentz is unreal, must be a jacks fan. If Wentz had protection, he would have done well in this system. Watch when he was starting and the middle routes, which are the staple of KOC's offense. They were solid.

I still think McCarthy has a future, obviously those middle over routes need to be polished and learn to climb the pocket instead of ducking your head. His out routes are butter!!

With that said, the vikes have copious amounts of problems on the salary cap, and most likely losing Flo. The first 4-5 game when the defense was banged up they looked like trash, the rest looked good.
 

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I can agree with most of this. Your hatred for Wentz is unreal, must be a jacks fan. If Wentz had protection, he would have done well in this system. Watch when he was starting and the middle routes, which are the staple of KOC's offense. They were solid.

I still think McCarthy has a future, obviously those middle over routes need to be polished and learn to climb the pocket instead of ducking your head. His out routes are butter!!

With that said, the vikes have copious amounts of problems on the salary cap, and most likely losing Flo. The first 4-5 game when the defense was banged up they looked like trash, the rest looked good.
At what point did I mention wentz at all he was fine for spot starts but as a full time starter that horse has been rode. I don’t hate wentz he’s just not that good homers from nd can’t see past that. I really don’t have a favorite college team but the U from the jimmy johnson days were fun and I guess if I had to pick now Roll tide. What Cig has done at Indiana is really impressive to take the worst team in history to play for a natty in a couple years is wild.
 


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