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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gst" data-source="post: 207400" data-attributes="member: 373">Actually plains fritz was merely repeating  mr carpins claim with that term. Plains time and again you have called voters that do not agree with the ideologies you were "trained" to push such as DU's M 5 measure, FB "right to farm measure and others a variety of names.- - - Updated - - -Plains, what do you think about orgs like the Sierra Club (the one you often quote on here) "training" students in colleges with their programs?How about the Center for Biological Diversity and their "training" One of the leaders in the "sue and settle" game. <a href="https://biologicaldiversity.applicantpro.com/internaljobs/719025.html" target="_blank">https://biologicaldiversity.applicantpro.com/internaljobs/719025.html</a>General position overview:The Center seeks a Conservation Science Intern to work on projects focused on protecting species and ecosystems, working with staff in our Oceans, Public Lands, Endangered Species, Environmental Health, and Climate programs. The internship will be based at the Center's Oakland office and provides a valuable experience working on real-world conservation problems. The internship may begin in May or June, a minimum commitment of three months is required, and a stipend is available.How about HSUS and their "training" plains? http://animalstudiesrepository.org/wilttou/<a href="http://animalstudiesrepository.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1002&context=acwp_hmap" target="_blank">Providing Humane Stewardship for Wildlife: The Case Against Sport Hunting</a><a href="http://animalstudiesrepository.org/do/search/?q=author_lname%3A%22Grandy%22%20author_fname%3A%22John%22&start=0&context=4157404" target="_blank">John W. Grandy, The Humane Society of the United States</a><a href="http://network.bepress.com/api/follow/subscribe?user=YTI2MzEzYzcwNGQ1NDNmYg%3D%3D&institution=YmQ3MzQ1ODkzYTYzN2ViMQ%3D%3D&format=html" target="_blank">Follow</a>Document TypeBook ChapterPublication Date1986AbstractSport hunting has no place on the National Wildlife Refuges of this nation.To even consider it is an affront to the concept of a Refuge, the right of wild animals to safe haven, and the wishes of societyThe question of sport hunting in society at large is slightly more complex because society, its thoughts and values, are evolving. Thankfully, we are moving more and more to a view that wildlife should be treated with the same dignity, respect, and freedom from avoidable cruelty that we would ask for ourselves. That process can be moved miles ahead if we eliminate sport hunting-killing for fun-now.CommentsPaper presented at the national conference, "Animals and Humans: Ethical Perspectives," Moorhead State University, Moorhead, MN, April 21-23, 1986.Recommended CitationGrandy, J.W. (1986). Providing humane stewardship for wildlife: The case against sport hunting. In M.W. Fox & L.D. Mickley (Eds.), Advances in animal welfare science 1986/87 (pp. 295-300). Washington, DC: The Humane Society of the United States.  yep train em, up to manage towards a "goal" like removing multiple uses, HFH, grazing/haying conservation acres...........</blockquote>

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