Rate Hike….. again……

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in the winter my electric bill is $400 to $600 a month. But you will never here me complain about it. I flip the switch it’s there. I get a little chilly, turn up the thermostat a little bit and poof!! I’m warmer. When the time comes and our cheap coal plants are forced out of production, then you guys will have something to cry about. Blackouts for everyone. $2000 month bills. The grid will pick and choose who gets electricity. Reality is coming.
 


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in the winter my electric bill is $400 to $600 a month. But you will never hear me complain about it. I flip the switch it’s there. I get a little chilly, turn up the thermostat a little bit and poof!! I’m warmer. When the time comes and our cheap coal plants are forced out of production, then you guys will have something to cry about. Blackouts for everyone. $2000 month bills. The grid will pick and choose who gets electricity. Reality is coming.
By that time I’ll have wood burners and an alternate power source. This is unsustainable the direction and speed this runaway train is moving. Capitalism is good. Most here would agree but what we have now is corporatocracy. Even in good old ND. And by the way at $600 a month….you goddamn well should be complaining.
 

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Who gets affected --- defintetly the retired fixed income, who else the guys that have to much Sq footage house gargage shop etc. America is finding a way to take every little bit of extra cash you had a few years ago and spend it. Bend over. I wish trump the best in trying to cut this monster. I hope he can do it ---- but the bottom line is that nobody was able to stop the train last time. They took cars from the train and lied to us with "core inflation". I dont care how much is spent on a box of fruit loops keep the dye its cheaper then how canada does it. Reagan cuts were hardly anything bottom line is it was so bad it could only get better; yet greenspan kept reducing the interest rate -- that in itself led to the demise. You have to have an interest rate - zero doesnt work.
 

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By that time I’ll have wood burners and an alternate power source. This is unsustainable the direction and speed this runaway train is moving. Capitalism is good. Most here would agree but what we have now is corporatocracy. Even in good old ND. And by the way at $600 a month….you goddamn well should be complaining.
Wood burners? You mean the ones the EPA has banned?
 

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Who gets affected --- defintetly the retired fixed income, who else the guys that have to much Sq footage house gargage shop etc. America is finding a way to take every little bit of extra cash you had a few years ago and spend it. Bend over. I wish trump the best in trying to cut this monster. I hope he can do it ---- but the bottom line is that nobody was able to stop the train last time. They took cars from the train and lied to us with "core inflation". I dont care how much is spent on a box of fruit loops keep the dye its cheaper then how canada does it. Reagan cuts were hardly anything bottom line is it was so bad it could only get better; yet greenspan kept reducing the interest rate -- that in itself led to the demise. You have to have an interest rate - zero doesnt work.
There is no president that will stop this. I believe it has to come from local..look at the PSC for example. They could stop it but it would hurt their political career. This is for energy anyways. To many people elected are worried about advancing their own career vs doing the right thing. It won't stop until it's to late in my opinion.
 


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Friend’s putting solar panels on his roof with battery storage. Setting it up so can sell back what he doesn’t use. Be interesting to see how much he’s able to sell back vs purchasing.
 

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Green energy is not a viable solution to the ever increasing demand for electricity, the only real solution to lessen the price per kw is to build more power plants. Also selling back green energy to the power companies is an unfair compensation since majority of the energy produced and later sold back to the power company is paid at a non peak rates. Perhaps someone can chime in to set the record straight on renewable energy but all the power that is generated by wind farms is bought at off peak rates making it a losing money maker and the reason why the government needs to subsidize the overall cost. When I worked for a local land surveyor we did some section breakdown by rugby nd, and that land owner leased his land to the wind farm company and told us this about how the power company is buying kw at a lower rate at peak production.
 

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At $200 a month for electricity that's $2,400 a year. 5 years is equal to $12,000. 10 years is 24k. Windmill/solar is expensive but at the above amounts it is starting to seem justifiable depending on the cost for the wind or solar. Kind of goes back to what I was saying, the govt/people in charge are pushing people to go off grid and supply there own energy....or deal with the repercussions, high rates, brown outs etc..
This is also for setting up personal use not commercial windmills/solar
 


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At $200 a month for electricity that's $2,400 a year. 5 years is equal to $12,000. 10 years is 24k. Windmill/solar is expensive but at the above amounts it is starting to seem justifiable depending on the cost for the wind or solar. Kind of goes back to what I was saying, the govt/people in charge are pushing people to go off grid and supply there own energy....or deal with the repercussions, high rates, brown outs etc..
This is also for setting up personal use not commercial windmills/solar
Let’s take this a step further and play it out. Let’s say people start supplementing their own power. What happens when the demand on the grid drops? Does the electric company reduce rates? Or do they continue jacking them up on the remaining customers to keep their profit or operating margin, which would in turn continue to amplify the issue…. Then what? Will the law demand you cannot live off grid or sustain yourself? These next 10-15 years we need to be very very careful who we are putting into office and I agree it starts with local movements to place people who actually want the best for the majority of citizens instead of the corporate puppets we have now rhat get in front of the tv and tell us how great dumping our tax dollars into something will be. They are all fucking liars. Hoeven, Cramer, Armstrong…… the whole lot of them want the big dogs to eat first.
 

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One thing to check out in your area is whether all customers pay the same rate. The utility company needs to bill X from their customers. If some customers get a discount for some reason, then others get to make up the difference.
 

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One thing to check out in your area is whether all customers pay the same rate. The utility company needs to bill X from their customers. If some customers get a discount for some reason, then others get to make up the difference.
Well isn’t that just fricking neat. Subsidizing other people’s discounts.
 

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At $200 a month for electricity that's $2,400 a year. 5 years is equal to $12,000. 10 years is 24k. Windmill/solar is expensive but at the above amounts it is starting to seem justifiable depending on the cost for the wind or solar. Kind of goes back to what I was saying, the govt/people in charge are pushing people to go off grid and supply there own energy....or deal with the repercussions, high rates, brown outs etc..
This is also for setting up personal use not commercial windmills/solar
At that rate $6.60/ day isn't too bad to turn your lights , Tv, and your WiFi on.
 


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Got another yearly letter from capital electric stating another rate increase. I’ve lost track now but is this like the 3rd or 4th rate hike in that many years….. this shits getting old. Does anyone know when the subsidies and tax monies we are giving going to all this clean energy and alternative Energy and All the other projects around the state that Hoeven, Cramer, Burgem and Fedorchek keep pimping out are going to help with our energy bills? That would be fucking great. Who keeps approving these rate hikes year after year? Fedorchek? I swear our elected officials in ND are damn near worse than Democrats……
Hate to break the news but most of them have been Democrats their whole lives. The Gubner and both senaturds were Democrats before they ran for Republican positions. They have all, including the PSC, sold us out to "The Green New Deal" Fedoricrap signed a contract with SCS to bury CO2 under her family's land in Oliver county. Imagine that! She did recuse herself from the pipeline siting hearings but still will gain greatly when it goes through. She said at the Amvets breakfast meeting that she was only paid a small amount of around $20,000. for the initial contract. Don't know how much more she will receive when they start to sequester it but according to the current info, SCS will be burying around 18 MILLION tons of CO2 per year. At $85.00 per ton, paid for by the U.S. taxpayers" Federal government," Her family might become filthy rich along with many others in this enormous green scam. People need to wake up and start to pay attention to the corruption in our State!
 
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At that rate $6.60/ day isn't too bad to turn your lights , Tv, and your WiFi on.
Lol, just like property taxes huh? My point is regardless of the daily price...which could be put towards off grid as well. At some point it will be more cost effective and RELIABLE to just go off grid. There could be a shift in where the money goes. I think I stated earlier..IF I was building new I would look at off grid as an option.. over a longer term it MAY be more cost effective.
 

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Well isn’t that just fricking neat. Subsidizing other people’s discounts.
The system is as corrupt as our liberal politicians here in ND. Want to hear something funny......... Some customers get paid to use electricity.
 

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