Red River Find of a Livetime - Stag Antler



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Found a bison skull right below Drayton Dam a few years ago. That made me pretty happy. It cleaned up really nicely too.

Complete skull? I have found partials and horns but never a complete.

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I believe you did right with your refusal. The long run will be the challenge. I'm debating on posting the "Eagles". I lose.

Apropos.
 

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It is interesting to think back in recent history on the red... There were "500 year" floods followed by the low water levels of today. Maybe the highwater current exposed the antler and the low water allowed it to be found. Just sayin...
 

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It is interesting to think back in recent history on the red... There were "500 year" floods followed by the low water levels of today. Maybe the highwater current exposed the antler and the low water allowed it to be found. Just sayin...

Spot on. I can tell you, a few Budweiser and this antler next to me......it keeps getting cooler for some reason. I haven't been disappointed looking at it yet! Keep thinking what it would be if whole. Ah, thank you beer. Or should I say thank you River for unveiling your treasure.

And yes, looking for a meeting tomorrow.....one day at a time.
 

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And north america was part of pangea. Just sayin...
 


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And north america was part of pangea. Just sayin...

I've thought of that Enslow.....imagination running wild. Most logical explanation is Eastern Elk from 120-150 years ago. My wife is blown away that they regrow that every year.
 

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Looks like an elk to me but im not a biologist and stuff.
 

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It could be an eastern but we are for the most part out of their old range although it did get a fair ways across MN and who knows how far that thing bounced downstream. When lewis and Clark came through by the time the spring came they were so sick of eating elk the went on about it at length in their jurnals and we're over joyed to get a few pronghorn. Elk were extremely comon back then and would guess that's near the time frame for when your is from if not earlier. From the looks of the pics it appears to be a shed? Good thing that way the game and fish won't try to clame it with their little bullshit law. It really doesn't matter what species it is because it's appears to be old as shit and that makes it extremely cool. If it was under water this whole time you need to keep it wet...probably more then just a towel or it will crack like a son of a bitch if it dries out to fast.
 

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It could be an eastern but we are for the most part out of their old range although it did get a fair ways across MN and who knows how far that thing bounced downstream. When lewis and Clark came through by the time the spring came they were so sick of eating elk the went on about it at length in their jurnals and we're over joyed to get a few pronghorn. Elk were extremely comon back then and would guess that's near the time frame for when your is from if not earlier. From the looks of the pics it appears to be a shed? Good thing that way the game and fish won't try to clame it with their little bullshit law. It really doesn't matter what species it is because it's appears to be old as shit and that makes it extremely cool. If it was under water this whole time you need to keep it wet...probably more then just a towel or it will crack like a son of a bitch if it dries out to fast.

I've found the same info in my research Dean. I see their range, just don't believe that I found the rare shed of the common elk we're used to. Only explanation I have for the mass and potential of this elk is Eastern. I have the wet towel until I can get info from those at the Heritage Center.....I have to believe they know what they are doing. I'll keep the group informed as I learn more.

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Looks like an elk to me but im not a biologist and stuff.

Lol - I'm not a biologist or stuff either. I'm trying to find those most knowledgeable.

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I love the title of this thread...."Find of a livetime". Meeting tomorrow for sure.
 
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Moose were a rarity in ND as were mountain lions at one time. Now, not so much. If the darn thing has legs, the whole world of dry land is possible. We have a black bear down by lisbon. Not what you would call "traditional" habitat for black bears, but trail cam pics are hard to argue with. History suggests there was a land bridge between siberia and north america and north america and south america have been connected for quite some time leaving the possibility of crossover from all species normally found in each continent not only possible, but over the course of a few centuries, quite likely. Either way, AWESOME find!!!! Congratulations!!!
 

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Moose were a rarity in ND as were mountain lions at one time. Now, not so much. If the darn thing has legs, the whole world of dry land is possible. We have a black bear down by lisbon. Not what you would call "traditional" habitat for black bears, but trail cam pics are hard to argue with. History suggests there was a land bridge between siberia and north america and north america and south america have been connected for quite some time leaving the possibility of crossover from all species normally found in each continent not only possible, but over the course of a few centuries, quite likely. Either way, AWESOME find!!!! Congratulations!!!

The bearing straight is no suggestion haha.
 

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I was definitely born in the wrong era. That thing would have been a tank in life. Vitals the size of a beach ball. Pretty much made for archery hunting.
 


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That one has good mass but it's well inside the size range of western elk. Have to remember back then your avarge elk or deer would be much older due to lack of modern hunting equipment and less pressure on peak age animals so big head gear was common. Just cruse google and you'll see lots in that range especially in the bottom 1/3 of the rack like what you have there like these guys. The bottom guys hands are right where yours breaks off.
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Cool find!!

We used to dive the river below the Garrison dam years ago. Amazing what can be found there. Down river there was what must have been a buffalo jump. tons of bones and a few partial skulls. Found part of a bighorn sheep skull with about 2/3 of a curl. BIG base.


a fair bit of other stuff including a friend finding a round lead ball about 5 inches in diameter if I remember right with US stamped on it.

Guessed it was a cannon ball but am no professor.

Good way to add to your tackle box too.












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Cool find!!

We used to dive the river below the Garrison dam years ago. Amazing what can be found there. Down river there was what must have been a buffalo jump. tons of bones and a few partial skulls. Found part of a bighorn sheep skull with about 2/3 of a curl. BIG base.


a fair bit of other stuff including a friend finding a round lead ball about 5 inches in diameter if I remember right with US stamped on it.

Guessed it was a cannon ball but am no professor.

Good way to add to your tackle box too.












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My cousin farms just south of the tailrace. There's a big buffalo jump on his property, some depressions in the hills, and an large hill they call the effigy. Would have been cool so see the natives on that same land.
 


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