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Remember when farms were diversified and could handle downturns in certain markets.........now it's put all our eggs in one basket because someone will bail us out.
 

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Remember when farms were diversified and could handle downturns in certain markets.........now it's put all our eggs in one basket because someone will bail us out.

No I don't. Dirty 30's put lots of diversified farms out of business. I'm not old enough to remember that or the 50s and 60s but my parents talked about how poor everyone was back then. They just didn't know any better because everyone was poor. 70s had some good times but the early 80s killed lots of diversified farms. I do agree that free markets would be better than having the government intervene. I do think sometimes some need to be driven out of the business and let others have a chance and see if they can be profitable. I've heard of many who got write offs in the 80s, most of those that I know of that got those write offs are still poor managers today.

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To all those bitching about the farmers and how good they have it, I then ask if its so easy and so profitable why aren't you doing it?

I have cattle and the little I farm isn't eligible for any of these free government payments though I do use federal crop insurance.
 


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As a kid I heard the stories told at the kitchen table from my uncle, aunts and parents of the 30 when they were young starting out either farming or what ever. Good memories but also tuff times for all.

Growing up in the 50 and 60 on a farm I remember some of that. Always remember when my dad had a 92 massey and we had a 48 IHC ton and half and it is still on the farm with 25000 miles but he told me to just park it in the corner as it will take most of the day to get a hopper full in the combine due to the rust. Told me to go home then and do some other things.

Remember 1973 when durum hit as high as 8-10/bushel and a 4430 new was around 12000 or about 1500 bushels.

The 80 with 20 plus interest rates did a lot of farmers and ranchers in.
Farmers Home would write off and then refinance some about every two years.

Also remember my first beer as a teenager and getting sick on three cans. It just would not quit turning in the brain but did manage to drive my 57 Mercury home. Hitting the bed the brain took off again. My first car at age 12, a 52 super buick for 50 dollars and sold for 25 dollars. The 426 Plymouth, my buddy 442 and airport road.
Ah the first kiss and then to dumb to know what else to do.
Memories are great and it has been good no matter what, farming, ranching or not. We all have had our fair share of the good things and not one has it any better or worse than most. A father telling his story of the grandkids calling for help as the fire came in. No, so far it has been good for me. db
 

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No I don't. Dirty 30's put lots of diversified farms out of business. I'm not old enough to remember that or the 50s and 60s but my parents talked about how poor everyone was back then. They just didn't know any better because everyone was poor. 70s had some good times but the early 80s killed lots of diversified farms. I do agree that free markets would be better than having the government intervene. I do think sometimes some need to be driven out of the business and let others have a chance and see if they can be profitable. I've heard of many who got write offs in the 80s, most of those that I know of that got those write offs are still poor managers today.

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To all those bitching about the farmers and how good they have it, I then ask if its so easy and so profitable why aren't you doing it?

I have cattle and the little I farm isn't eligible for any of these free government payments though I do use federal crop insurance.
To answer your question "why aren't we doing it", that's the easiest question in the world. We aren't because it's not possible. Only way to start farming now is to inherit or take over the folks farm.
 

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db-2 I remember those times too. Before my time my dad told me about. He said his neighbors were not happy when they were saying in 1950 they never had it so good. It was the Korean war and that boosted the economy. When they were talking my father said he would rather be poor than get rich on blood money. After those years the gov got involved. If you knew enough not to spend to much like you were rich already you could survive. By the 1960's even more gov involvement made it easier and you had to be a very poor manager or very unlucky to fail. I remember my dad watching that flax crop and drooling. We never heard of flax rust. Bam. Then a heart attack. Hard to manage for heart attacks. Moved to town.
 

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