Whitetail Statewide Tag

[MarbleEyez]

For those of you who weren't lucky enough to draw a tag this fall, here's a chance to buy a whitetail buck tag that is statewide, good for any season! Proceeds from the tag go back to a great organization!

https://equip.pifers.com/auctions/1...yRnMCR0MTc4NjM3MTM4MiRqNjAkbDAkaDQ4MzA5ODEwMg..

 

[Obi-Wan]

Another step towards hunting being a rich mans sport. I agree with raffling tags off for charity but do not agree with an outright auction.

 

[wslayer]

Make it like a Powerball draw $10/ ticket

 

[dsharp83]

agreed.. turning into some bull shit,
auction really!! ugh G&f suck..
already at $5,700

 

[yellowlab]

agreed.. turning into some bull shit,
auction really!! ugh G&f suck..
already at $5,700

Can't say I disagree. Except let's not blame Game and Fish on this one. They have been opposing these special allocation tags for years but the legislature passes laws making them give them out. They have no control over them.

 

[Scooby-Doo Do]

Can't say I disagree. Except let's not blame Game and Fish on this one. They have been opposing these special allocation tags for years but the legislature passes laws making them give them out. They have no control over them.

Yep, everyone likes to throw stones at the government agency like G&F. Little does the public realize how much government funding (federal, state, local) funding that is received for things like public boat ramps to your favorite lake. (Horsehead for example).

 

[Kurtr]

Isnt the point of a fund raiser to make as much money as you can?

 

[Traxion]

What are the laws on who can get an auction tag to sell? What if the local knitting club wants one, along with the hockey club and 4h shooting sports all want an auction tag? You end up with a bunch of extra tags given out to the highest bidder while diluting the value if the are not limited to certain groups. Just curious?

 

[Duckslayer100]

A single statewide buck tag for auction is absolutely laughable. We have zones with ZERO public rifle tags because the quota is so low there are none left after gratis allocation. Public deer hunting in ND is a freaking joke.

I agree with the above -- make it a lottery ticket like the 50/50 raffle at a sporting event. Everyone has the same chance at winning it and it's not left up to some rich schlub who probably will have to hire a guide anyway.

 

[savage270]

Yes the local knitting club is eligible to get one of these tags, along with every other organization under the sun that isn't related to the outdoors. Hundreds apply every year and they hold a lottery to see who gets these special tags. Thanks ND legislature.

 

[MarbleEyez]

The entire point of the special allocation license is to help non-profit organizations raise money, the last time I checked

 

[Obi-Wan]

Isnt the point of a fund raiser to make as much money as you can?

Typically more money can be made with a raffle than an auction

I know this is an Elk not a Whitetail but they anticipate on making

$ 100,000.00 if they sell all 1,000 tickets

They could have sold 1,000 tickets at $ 20/ ticket and made $20,000 which I highly doubt the auction will get anywhere near $ 20,000 the whitetail tag.

 

[wslayer]

The entire point of the special allocation license is to help non-profit organizations raise money, the last time I checked

But to make it a rich mans game is Bullshit !
If a 1000 people buy a raffle ticket at $10 A pop, at least it gives hope to some that doesn't have $6k to flash around

 

[Obi-Wan]

The entire point of the special allocation license is to help non-profit organizations raise money, the last time I checked

The " non profit " label is pretty loose in ND Hell the " non profit" Matpac youth wrestling made over 3.5 million in gaming last year alone and yet they still charge a monthly fees for kids to attend.

 

[measure-it]

Seems everything revolves around the mighty buck.
The above is just more proof of that.
It's gotten way out-of-hand! (medical, insurances, gas & oil)
just to name a few.

 

[Petras]

Just playing devils advocate here... It takes a good group of people to successfully run a raffle. There are hoops to jump through just to get it going, and then you need plenty of people to peddle tickets... This group may not have the volunteers necessary to get the maximum benefit from a raffle so the auction could be the best route...

I don't personally see the difference between this and the G&F auctioning off a bighorn tag.... sure the bighorn tag generates revenue to help the bighorn population, but even with this whitetail tag auction there is a requirement for some sort of conservation project to be done with some of the funds....

They followed the process and were picked to receive a tag... How they go about generating funds from that tag is up to them... don't like it, don't bid...

Maybe instead of bitching about hunting becoming a rich man's game on the internet, people should contact their reps and tell them there needs to be rules put in place that dictate how the NP groups can generate funds from these tags... That's just what this country needs... more stupid fucking laws and restrictions...

Honestly, I hope the tag goes for a shitload of money to do as much good as possible for the group that is auctioning it... It's been a few years since I drew a buck tag and I could give a shit less if this, or any other NP tags given out hurt my draw chances... The benefit to these NP groups will far outweigh the pain and suffering of myself not getting drawn for a tag....

 

[Kurtr]

Just playing devils advocate here... It takes a good group of people to successfully run a raffle. There are hoops to jump through just to get it going, and then you need plenty of people to peddle tickets... This group may not have the volunteers necessary to get the maximum benefit from a raffle so the auction could be the best route...

I don't personally see the difference between this and the G&F auctioning off a bighorn tag.... sure the bighorn tag generates revenue to help the bighorn population, but even with this whitetail tag auction there is a requirement for some sort of conservation project to be done with some of the funds....

They followed the process and were picked to receive a tag... How they go about generating funds from that tag is up to them... don't like it, don't bid...

Maybe instead of bitching about hunting becoming a rich man's game on the internet, people should contact their reps and tell them there needs to be rules put in place that dictate how the NP groups can generate funds from these tags... That's just what this country needs... more stupid fucking laws and restrictions...

Honestly, I hope the tag goes for a shitload of money to do as much good as possible for the group that is auctioning it... It's been a few years since I drew a buck tag and I could give a shit less if this, or any other NP tags given out hurt my draw chances... The benefit to these NP groups will far outweigh the pain and suffering of myself not getting drawn for a tag....

Raffles are an ass ache to run. Its no different than here people bitching about the bighorn raffle but with out it there would be no big horn sheep to even have a chance at.

 

[wslayer]

And why couldn't a raffle be set up similar to what G&F does for the Early Canada Goose season permits to be purchased. If you want a chance, purchase a draw number. Could go $5 or $10 / ticket limit 5 tickets /person and you could cap it at 2500 tickets or whatever number. If higher demand for the chance, raise the number on a yearly basis. Would even the playing field for many, and not limit that tag to someone with to much money.

 

[Petras]

The purpose of these special allotments isn't to even the playing field for everyone.... It's to generate as much revenue as possible for the NP organization... As much as it sucks for those who can't afford to try to buy one of these tags (this includes me), the true intent and purpose of the tag is being fulfilled...

You mention running a raffle again... I'll say it again, it takes a lot of people to run a good successful raffle... 2500 tickets is 250 books of 10 tickets... figure an average volunteer MIGHT be able to sell 2-3 books of tickets each... you are looking at 80 volunteers just to sell tickets.... yes I know that there are some people who are more active and better at peddling tickets but interacting with people and trying to get them to buy something isn't something that many people like to do....

I have personally looked into running a gun/item raffle to help out a NP group that I volunteer with. It's kind of a daunting task just to get it set up... then you have to track every single thing about the whole process. It's not an easy chore and requires a lot of people...

Lets look at this from another angle... Asking a NP group to do things the same way as the game and fish isn't really fair... The resources available to the 2 groups are VASTLY different...

 

[NDSportsman]

I don't think a tag for a public resource that has become so hard to draw for the average resident of this state should be given to any non-profit organization. They can auction a million other things to raise money. Just my opinion....