Ford is debuting a diesel engine for the F-150 pickup truck for the first time.

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If the engine is made by ford than I'm sure they will keep with there long tradition of making POS diesel engines like they have since they scraped the 7.3. I've always been a Ford guy but they really suck at making diesels

The only diesel Ford actually has made for the pickups is the 6.7 from 2011 on up. These are by far the best diesel engines ford has offered in their pickups. The 6.9 7.3 6.0 and 6.4 were all made by Navistar (International). The reason for discontinuing the 7.3 was emissions standards. The 7.3 is not nearly as good as the new ones. It is loud, hard starting, and does not have near the power. They were an excellent engine in their day, but technology has come a long way in the diesel class.
They have been talking about a diesel in the half ton since around 2005. Navistar had one ready to go, but with the disaster of the 6.0 and the resulting split from supplying Ford engines, it never happened. I was at a service school around that time and they were close to releasing it.
 


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I agree technology has come a long way in the diesel class but sadly most of it was put into meeting emission regulations and trying to reinvent the wheel. I have a 1967 Mercedes diesel that gets 35 MPG and has plenty of power.
 

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I have been a diesel mechanic for over 30 years, the beauty of a diesel used to be the simplicity. with the emissions on the new diesels the simplicity is gone. I had a new diesel Colorado in my shop for a block heater what a cluster under the hood.
a good rule of thumb is if the cylinders are in a row your good to tow, if they are in a vee you squat to pee.
 

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My 2004 5.9 Cummins has 120,000 miles on it so it will be a "couple years" till I need something else.
 

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I always wished dodge did a 6bt/4bt dakota, there is supposed to be a diesel engine going in a new ram dakota in 2019.

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My 2004 5.9 Cummins has 120,000 miles on it so it will be a "couple years" till I need something else.
Is it true the 6bt weighs like 1100 pounds that like the wieght of two 318 holy crap
 


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I always wished dodge did a 6bt/4bt dakota, there is supposed to be a diesel engine going in a new ram dakota in 2019.

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Is it true the 6bt weighs like 1100 pounds that like the wieght of two 318 holy crap
Dodge's 3/4 ton chassis can barely handle the weight of the 6BT. It would snap a dakota in half lol. 4BT would too. They're very heavy for a 4 cyl. also.
 

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Lol ;:;rofl eye there are YouTube video of Dakota's with both 4 and 6 inline cummins diesel

I like my Dodges but their front ends are notoriously problematic so I would say those that modified to fit the engines did some major beefing up that I doubt Dodge would be smart enough to do.
 

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I like my Dodges but their front ends are notoriously problematic so I would say those that modified to fit the engines did some major beefing up that I doubt Dodge would be smart enough to do.
Depending if this was a 4 or 6 they did a sas for the 6 and beefed up the springs in the 4
Also the 6 needed to be shifted back like 3 inches to clear the radiator. I think it would have been a pain for the dakota to get a diesel just becuase of the smog regulations. Anyways it would have been neat if they did


Ps in 2005 jeep came out with a vw 3.0 crb diesel but vw couldn't pass smog test so it was never able to get a foot hold here in the states. That problem with all diesels in certain states you need to get your vehicle tested for emissions. 23 mpg hwy


Put a 3.0L bmw twin turbo 245hp 410torque and 35mpg

www.google.com/amp/www.motortrend.com/news/2008-international-engine-of-the-year/amp/
 
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trust me nobody is driving a dakota with a B4 or B6 in it with stock front end lol. A B4 is 780 with oil in it
 


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jeep liberty's came with a in line 4 cylinder vm (Italian) diesel I had a 04 in my shop I put glow plugs in. the guy had it chipped little diesel made good power.
 

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2005 was the first year of the vw crb diesel engine in the jeep

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World's fastest truck is a banks dakota with a 4bdt 213 mph
 
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I believe that the diesel option won't pay for its upfront cost till 200,ooo +miles , how many people keep a truck that long?
 

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It's not so much paying for the diesel features as it is enjoying its advantages and getting a higher resale out of it when you move on. This is not an easy calculation to make.
 


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A buddy of ours that lives in western Montana has an early 90's Ford 3/4 ton Ford with the 7.3 and 5 speed tranny 4x4. He used this baby hard and it is still pulling strong today. Over 400,000 miles on it and the only thing he has done to the engine other than glow plugs is he redone the heads once at around 275,000. His is before the computer and turbo days. Darn nice pickup yet.
He has been looking for a 4 door crewcab with a stick and a 7.3 for quite a few years and can't find one that doesn't have a ton of miles on it. He won't drive an automatic for what he uses his pickup for.
 

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I always get a kick out of the guy who needs a manual transmission.....get an Allison
 

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I believe that the diesel option won't pay for its upfront cost till 200,ooo +miles , how many people keep a truck that long?
Me! I've had a few actually

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The problem with any new diesel isn't just the upfront cost. It's the cost to making any repairs to it outside of warranty. I'm a diesel mechanic and I won't own a new diesel outside of warranty. Unless you just don't like having any money in your wallet
 

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I always get a kick out of the guy who needs a manual transmission.....get an Allison

Ford's 6-spd auto in "Manual" mode shifts every bit as fast as I can shift a "real" stick shift. There isn't ANY dead-stop situation in which the stick shift offers an advantage to a new auto when getting going again. The button on the auto gear shift lever downshifts faster than a guy can pull a gear and let out the clutch without wheel hopping as well.
 

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We've had a 2012 KR F350 with the 6.7 for a little over a year. Bought it with 40k miles on it, and now we are just touching 75k on it. Not a single issue. Religious about 5k oil changes with 5-40 synthetic and fuel filters every 10k. This is the first diesel I've owned, and for towing I don't think I could ever go back to a gas. I still love my old V10, but its just not even in the same ballpark. We've towed some heavy loads with the diesel and so far and are quite impressed. We have 3.55 gears and unloaded the pickup is getting around 20 mpgs in that 70 mph area. 18.5 average on the interstate doing 75-78. Like any pickup, wind is a factor, and once you put any sort of trailer behind it mileage drops quickly. Doesn't really matter if we are towing 5k or 15k, pickup is getting 12-13 towing at 75. Went down to Wyoming with it to pick up a supercub project for dad with a big enclosed 28 foot trailer. Averaged over 80 mph the entire trip and had some insane winds. Pickup grabbed right around 9 mpgs round trip. That being said, the nearly extra 10 mpgs highway this new little diesel F150 is looking to put out compared to the ecoboost or 5.0 is something I would be very, very interested in. If it's a legit 28-30 highway type of rig, I will more than likely be giving it a shot, just for the fact that I like driving a pickup much more than a car.
 


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