Whats Your Take ?

[wslayer]

Just heard this morning on ABC news @7:25 that ND has put out an order that you "cannot" take motor vehicles off maintained roads thru Dec 1.
Is that going to be putting praire roads in that category? That would certainly suck for pheasant and deer season as some PLOT and WPA parcels, that is only access.
Is this only pertaining to out west where the fire bans are in place already ? Haven't found clarification yet.

Did find map under ndresponse.gov ,has some roads listed under specific counties.

 

[Obi-Wan]

https://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/dpg/alerts-notices/?aid=91474

Not sure entire state but this is for the grasslands out west


Date(s): Oct 10, 2024 - Dec 1, 2024

Forest Order: 01-18-00-24-03

Order Number: # 01-18-00-24-03
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
UNITED STATES FOREST SERVICE
DAKOTA PRAIRIE GRASSLANDS

EMERGENCY FIRE CLOSURE ORDER AND RESTRICTION​

PROHIBITIONS​

Pursuant to 16 U.S.C. § 551 and 36 C.F.R. §§ 261.50(a), 261.52 the following acts are prohibited on the National Forest System lands and roads within the Little Missouri, Sheyenne Cedar River and Grand River National Grasslands, Denbigh Experimental Forest, and Souris Purchase Unit, Dakota Prairie Grasslands, described below and shown on the attached map incorporated into this Order as Exhibit A (the “Described Area/Roads”):

1. Building, maintaining, attending, or using a fire, campfire, or stove fire. [36 CFR 261.52(a)].
2. Smoking, except within an enclosed vehicle or building, a developed recreation site, or while stopped in an area at least three feet in diameter that is barren or cleared of all flammable material. [36 CFR 261.52(d)].
3. Being on a non-surfaced, Prairie Two Track, National Forest System Road with a wheeled motor vehicle. [36 CFR 261.54(a)]. A Prairie Two Track is defined as parallel wheel depressions in the soil with no other recent visible maintenance work to maintain the road. (No grading, continuous aggregate surface, etc.)

EXEMPTIONS​

Pursuant to 36 CFR 261.50 (e), an order may exempt any of the following persons from any of the prohibitions contained in the Order:

1. Persons with Forest Service Permit No. FS-7700-48, specifically exempting them from this Order or a written determination by a Forest Service authorized officer that a permit is not required under 36 C.F.R. § 251.50(e)(1) or (2).
2. Persons using a stove or grill solely fueled by liquid petroleum or liquid petroleum gas (LPG) fuels that can be turned on and off, if used in an area that is barren or cleared of all overhead and surrounding materials within three feet of the device.
3. Any Federal, State, or local officer or member of an organized rescue or firefighting force in the performance of an official duty.

DESCRIBED AREA/ROADS​

All National Forest System Lands and Prairie Two Track roads within Billings, Golden Valley, Grant, McHenry, McKenzie, Ransom, Richland, Sioux, and Slope Counties, North Dakota, and Corson, Perkins, and Ziebach Counties, South Dakota.

PURPOSE​

The purpose of this Order is to provide for the public’s health and safety and to protect National Forest System lands, resources, and facilities during the current period of severe fire danger.

IMPLEMENTATION​

1. This Order shall be in effect from October 10, 2024, at 12:00 am through December 1, 2024, at 11:59 pm, unless rescinded.
2. A map identifying the Described Area/Roads is attached and made part of this Order as Exhibit A. For a digital version of this Order and Exhibit A, visit https://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/dpg/alerts-notices.
3. Unless otherwise expressly defined in this Order, the terms used in this Order are defined by the regulations of the Secretary of Agriculture, 36 C.F.R. Chapter II, Parts 200-299. If there are terms in this Order that are not expressly defined in the Order or 36 C.F.R. Chapter II, Parts 200-299, their meaning shall be determined by their plain language definitions.
4. A violation of the above prohibitions is punishable as a Class B misdemeanor by a fine of not more than $5,000 for individuals and $10,000 for organizations, or by imprisonment for not more than six months, or both. 16 U.S.C. § 551; 18 U.S.C. §§ 3559, 3571, and 3581.
5. Contact the McKenzie Ranger District in Watford City, ND (701) 842-8500, Medora Ranger District in Dickinson, ND (701) 227-7800, Sheyenne Ranger District, Lisbon, ND, (701) 404-8950, Grand River Ranger District, Lemmon, SD (605) 374-3592 and Dakota Prairie Grasslands Supervisor’s Office in Bismarck, ND, (701) 989-7300, for more information about this Order.
6. This Order supersedes any previous Orders prohibiting the same or similar acts on the same Restricted Area.

Signed and issued on this 10th day of October, 2024.
/s BETHANY IHLE
Grasslands Supervisor
Dakota Prairie Grasslands

 

[Tommyboy]

I don't want to know the feeling of being the person to start a wildfire that destroys everything in its path.
But some dumbass will still be out there rippin down prairie trails.

 

[Obi-Wan]

Unless we get snow before deer season it looks like there might be a couple white tail doe in 4D that make it to next year. not sure I want to walk 1 1/2 miles just to get to the section where we have had great success for white tail out in 4D for a couple doe.

 

[Jiffy]

Better get on the treadmill boys!!!

 

[wslayer]

I for one know how easily a grass fire can start from hot exhaust. Late 70's was driving buddies Jeep down prairie road a little after dusk. Road ahead had a tree down across so had to turn around on very narrow road ( about 3/4 mile to back out), and got to far down the ditch and got hung up. About 3 mins trying to get out was all it took, and ignited the grass. Jeep was a goner, could hear tires exploding as was running to nearest farm to call 911 ( pre cell phone days). One of the most horrific days of my life.

 

[Tommyboy]

Watch just how fast this fire gets out of hand.

 

[risingsun]

^^^

Can't fix stupid!!

 

[Jiffy]

Watch just how fast this fire gets out of hand.

BUT they limited out on pheasants.....because that's important.

smh...

 

[Tommyboy]

BUT they limited out on pheasants.....because that's important.

smh...

Game pigs are always the problem. Might not be a popular opinion but, lots of entitled hunters out there that think just because they are hunting or fishing, rules get looser. More so hunting being seasonal.

 

[Kurtr]

Sounds like a deer hunters dream not so much for the drive around and look for deer out the window guys

 

[Whisky]

I do feel bad for those with elk tags left to fill. This makes A LOT of ground not really feasible to pack an elk out of.

 

[tunakiller]

any word on the wildlife lost in the Ray area?

 

[Tinesdown]

any word on the wildlife lost in the Ray area?

Im thinking it was minimal that west fire scar was not holding many critters that whole area south of highway 50 it burned never produced much beside grain an oil alot of wheat fields up that way with no game on regardless of fire