Buying a new gun..Dilemma

[Zogman]

nope just don’t deal well with bullshit. The ballistics you speak off tell a different story the new wave cartridges how in any way are they trying to copy the 270? Show me the tables and prove me wrong. It sounds like you have read one to many Ron spoomer paid advertisement articles. If it wasn’t for Elmer Keiththe 270 would be an after thought

Do you mean Jack O'Conner???

[SDMF]

If it wasn't for the .270Win I'd shoot stuff with other things.

[Kurtr]

Do you mean Jack O'Conner???

yep

[SDMF]

If ordering a Barrett FieldCraft, Wittakers out of KY is quite competitively pricing them.........

[1lessdog]

If ordering a Barrett FieldCraft, Wittakers out of KY is quite competitively pricing them.........

Before I spent 1900.00 on a Barrett I would buy a Remington 700 Action and have it printed and get a good barrel and have it chambered in the caliber a person wanted and only have less than 1000.00 into it. Buy a McMillian stock for 500.00 and you still have less than a barrett.

[1bigfokker]

you still have less than a barrett. Yes you will.

[Bed Wetter]

Before I spent 1900.00 on a Barrett I would buy a Remington 700 Action and have it printed and get a good barrel and have it chambered in the caliber a person wanted and only have less than 1000.00 into it. Buy a McMillian stock for 500.00 and you still have less than a barrett.

And it will only weigh 2 lbs more than the Barrett in the same caliber.

[1lessdog]

And it will only weigh 2 lbs more than the Barrett in the same caliber.

And your point is?? I have hunted the Mts many many times and never once said I wish my rifle was 2 lbs lighter. A McMillian ways less than 2 lbs the ones I have in fact there 28 oz. So your stock must be negative 4 oz's. That's a pretty light stock.

[Bed Wetter]

And your point is?? I have hunted the Mts many many times and never once said I wish my rifle was 2 lbs lighter. A McMillian ways less than 2 lbs the ones I have in fact there 28 oz. So your stock must be negative 4 oz's. That's a pretty light stock.

$1,486 out the door. And I never once found myself thinking, “I wish I would have saved a few hundred bucks and gone with a heavier rifle and spent 3-6 months sourcing all the parts.”

[SupressYourself]

... Some people have asked me why I didnt build a 6.5 Creedmoor as its on a short action. I tell them if a caliber is based on the length of action that is a poor excuse. I can cycle a long action as fast as a short action...

I agree that's a poor reason to pick a caliber, but what many people miss is the efficiency of the Creed, x47 Lapua, etc. For example, for a given bullet, I can nearly match the velocity of your 6.5x284 with a 6.5 Creed, all while burning between 5 and 10 grains less powder. That means nothing to a casual shooter or '10 shots a year' deer hunter, but for those like me with yearly round counts in the thousands, it means my barrel will last longer, and the reduced recoil makes it more pleasant to shoot for extended periods.

[dgully]

6.5 PRC is where it at

Had my Winchester Model 70 300WSM built to the 6.5PRC, Precision Research Carbon Barrel, H&S precision stock, absolutely love shooting this gun. But also to each their own.

[Kurtr]

I agree that's a poor reason to pick a caliber, but what many people miss is the efficiency of the Creed, x47 Lapua, etc. For example, for a given bullet, I can nearly match the velocity of your 6.5x284 with a 6.5 Creed, all while burning between 5 and 10 grains less powder. That means nothing to a casual shooter or '10 shots a year' deer hunter, but for those like me with yearly round counts in the thousands, it means my barrel will last longer, and the reduced recoil makes it more pleasant to shoot for extended periods.

quit now with reason and facts.

[1lessdog]

I agree that's a poor reason to pick a caliber, but what many people miss is the efficiency of the Creed, x47 Lapua, etc. For example, for a given bullet, I can nearly match the velocity of your 6.5x284 with a 6.5 Creed, all while burning between 5 and 10 grains less powder. That means nothing to a casual shooter or '10 shots a year' deer hunter, but for those like me with yearly round counts in the thousands, it means my barrel will last longer, and the reduced recoil makes it more pleasant to shoot for extended periods.

If I burn out the barrel, I will just buy another one, Hell there cheap only 370.00 plus 350.00 to thread and chamber and Im back in the game. Everyone person is different when it comes to shooting. A little recoil doesn't bother me and I shoot 1000's of rds a yr. I have a rifle range in my back yard and shot most days developing loads and just shooting.

And a 6.5 Creedmoor will nearly match but wont match a 6.5 x 284 shooting the same bullets. Which means less time in the air for drop and wind drift.

[Kurtr]

If I burn out the barrel, I will just buy another one, Hell there cheap only 370.00 plus 350.00 to thread and chamber and Im back in the game. Everyone person is different when it comes to shooting. A little recoil doesn't bother me and I shoot 1000's of rds a yr. I have a rifle range in my back yard and shot most days developing loads and just shooting.

And a 6.5 Creedmoor will nearly match but wont match a 6.5 x 284 shooting the same bullets. Which means less time in the air for drop and wind drift.

How many rounds do you get till you have to re barrel the 6.5-284?

[1lessdog]

How many rounds do you get till you have to re barrel the 6.5-284?

I think the average shooter can get close to 1000 rds. People shooting matches and its a timed match 600 is pushing it.

[Wags2.0]

hardo’s and their penis measuring contests are gay. Shoot what you want. Jeezus

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Except savage rifles. They’re hideous and a two stage trigger on a bolt gun is tarded (jk only sort of)

[1lessdog]

I have always said if your going to build a hotrod drive it like a hotrod. Same with guns, you build them to perform at there best. Get the most out of them that you can.

I have a 22-6MM AI built and it shoots a 50gr Blitzking at over 4350 fps. Yes I can tame it down, but why it shoots the best when pushed hard. I also have two 6MM AI one with a 1 - 13 1/2 and other 1 - 14 twist and shoot 55 gr Blitzking at real close to 4300 fps and shooting at a Coyote from zero to 450 yds no hold over. Now them are hotrods.

[Kurtr]

I think the average shooter can get close to 1000 rds. People shooting matches and its a timed match 600 is pushing it.

i was thinking 1200 ish would be about the end if you really chased the lands

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I have always said if your going to build a hotrod drive it like a hotrod. Same with guns, you build them to perform at there best. Get the most out of them that you can.

I have a 22-6MM AI built and it shoots a 50gr Blitzking at over 4350 fps. Yes I can tame it down, but why it shoots the best when pushed hard. I also have two 6MM AI one with a 1 - 13 1/2 and other 1 - 14 twist and shoot 55 gr Blitzking at real close to 4300 fps and shooting at a Coyote from zero to 450 yds no hold over. Now them are hotrods.

I have a 6mm I thought about loading that bullet does it exit the yotes with little pelt damage.

[SupressYourself]

hardo’s and their penis measuring contests are gay. Shoot what you want. Jeezus

Agreed.
To be clear, I don't give a shit what anyone shoots. Sometimes it's cool just to have something different, like a 6.5x284.

There is no "best" cartridge for everything, but there are several points to consider when picking one. Just trying to add some of those points to the conversation.

[1lessdog]

I have a 6mm I thought about loading that bullet does it exit the yotes with little pelt damage.[/QUOTE]



I shoot a Coyote in the shoulder normally no pass thru. If it does go thru it makes a mess of them and any other broadside shot is a mess. If I can get them standing looking at me. Very seldom have a pass thru. In a 6MM you will be shooting 300 to 400 FPS slower they could be a little easier on the fur.