A.I. Are you Excited?

Do you believe AI will be a net negative or a net positive for our society?

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Rowdie

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It's sure made searches fast and efficient. If I'm looking to see when the sessions of a state tournament start, just ask it. No searching to clicking around or signing up to a website, just bang, here you go. I know it helped care for my cat when she was bit by a rattle snake (that's all we could think of)
 


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I havent watched the whole thing yet, but the first half was informative, interesting info about the history of AI dev...
 


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They are interesting , I saved the last one and watched some of it . This one too, I wish they werent so long winded.
I think long form podcasts are something you need to work up to, maybe like running a 10k... Ive been listening to them for years. My mom can only do about 20 minutes at a time, before her brain starts to overheat. I could never just sit and listen to one without doing something else, but when im listening, Im always doing other things at the same time. Shopping, mowing the lawn, surfing on my phone, driving, etc. Its a much better use of your time than listening to music, for sure...
 

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Interesting X Post...

Elon Musk just said the quiet part out loud about where AI actually ends up.

Musk: “The honest answer for AI and robotics is long term working will be optional.”

Long term meaning ten years from now or less.

For centuries, human survival has required human labor. That is the oldest equation in civilization.

You work or you don’t eat. You work or you lose the shelter. You work or you fall behind everyone who does.

Musk is describing the end of that equation entirely.

Musk: “If you wanna work you can. Kind of like if you grow vegetables, you can grow vegetables in your garden or you can get them from the store.”

The analogy is quieter than the claim deserves.

Growing your own vegetables is something people do for joy. For ritual. For the satisfaction of making something with their hands.

Not because they would starve otherwise.

That is what work becomes.

Musk: “It’s extra work to grow your own vegetables but people enjoy the process. That’s gonna be how work is in the future.”

When AI and robotics scale to their limit, the cost of physical goods and services collapses toward zero.

Labor stops being the mechanism that separates people who survive from people who don’t.

What happens to human motivation when survival is no longer the reason to get up?

That is the question nobody building this technology has answered.

The abundance is coming. The crisis of meaning is coming with it.

Musk is describing the greatest liberation in human history.

He is also describing the greatest identity crisis our species has ever faced.

Both arrive on the same timeline.

Ten years or less.
 


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You’re pretty dug in on this being the beginning of living on vacation forever… I don’t see that being the endgame to this at all
There are several possibilities, one of which may be human extinction or enslavement... Hopefully we don't go that direction!
 


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Interesting X Post...

Elon Musk just said the quiet part out loud about where AI actually ends up.

Musk: “The honest answer for AI and robotics is long term working will be optional.”

Long term meaning ten years from now or less.

For centuries, human survival has required human labor. That is the oldest equation in civilization.

You work or you don’t eat. You work or you lose the shelter. You work or you fall behind everyone who does.

Musk is describing the end of that equation entirely.

Musk: “If you wanna work you can. Kind of like if you grow vegetables, you can grow vegetables in your garden or you can get them from the store.”

The analogy is quieter than the claim deserves.

Growing your own vegetables is something people do for joy. For ritual. For the satisfaction of making something with their hands.

Not because they would starve otherwise.

That is what work becomes.

Musk: “It’s extra work to grow your own vegetables but people enjoy the process. That’s gonna be how work is in the future.”

When AI and robotics scale to their limit, the cost of physical goods and services collapses toward zero.

Labor stops being the mechanism that separates people who survive from people who don’t.

What happens to human motivation when survival is no longer the reason to get up?

That is the question nobody building this technology has answered.

The abundance is coming. The crisis of meaning is coming with it.

Musk is describing the greatest liberation in human history.

He is also describing the greatest identity crisis our species has ever faced.

Both arrive on the same timeline.

Ten years or less.
And of course some movie has already been made about it
 

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I heard an interesting point the other day: What about interns? Think about it for a second. Right now (and likely for the foreseeable future) AI is handling the simplest, most mundane and/or, least impactful duties; think making a new logo, or entering data into a spreadsheet. These are tasks that, historically, have been done by the newest and greenest employees. Busy work. Things that need to be done correctly, but that can act as both learning experiences, as well as helping an individual potentially advance in a trade or company.

So unless a company is doing it out of the goodness of their hearts, why would they have interns to do tasks that AI is already doing for them? And if they don't need to hire humans for entry-level grunt work, how do they find individuals with the expertise and skills to work in more technical areas? And this could expand even further into our education system. We could see a systematic domino effect directly related to an increasingly large knowledge gap within the human population.

I do see unemployment going up as AI continues to infiltrate the economy and our daily lives. But it's not some paradise of hunting, fishing and gardening waiting for us. That would mean that capitalism is no longer a thing. Or that they create universal income. Neither of which makes any sense for the Top 1 percent. We're literally seeing some of the wealthiest and most powerful people on the planet actively sucking in even more wealth and power. You think they'd give all that up if we suddenly didn't need to spend money?

To put it plain: I think we're unequivocally fucked.

Then again, we're always one war, or comet, or natural disaster away from some cataclysm. So just chalk this up as one more thing that could potentially wipe us off the planet.
 

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