Bismarck: I look down at the ground when people ask me where I am from

[db-2]

when i was young i had a job taking ice off the red river in fargo and putting in storage for the RR cars back in their day.

As we cut the ice on the river it smelled really strong from all the sewage the Moorhead homes dump into the river from their homes.
Not sure if one cut ice again on the river if it would still smell. db-2

 

[tm22]

What everyone seems to be forgetting is the COE felt they had everything under control in 2011 until the major rains came in Montana and then they realized they didn't have enough storage to accommodate it.

No, what everyone that's b!tching about the COE seems to forget is the fact that half of MT got a years worth of rain in a matter of days in 2011, on top of the huge snow amounts. The COE had the system in good shape to handle either one of those events, but not both. The only way to handle both is to keep the reservoirs at low levels, JUST IN CASE there's another 500 year storm. Planning for a just in case like that is asinine. And remember back to the low water years...we had to fight to keep every drop of water in those lakes. We don't want a repeat of that either. Unless the system is used strictly for flood control, another flood will happen, it's only a matter of time.

 

[Obi-Wan]

No, what everyone that's b!tching about the COE seems to forget is the fact that half of MT got a years worth of rain in a matter of days in 2011, on top of the huge snow amounts. The COE had the system in good shape to handle either one of those events, but not both. The only way to handle both is to keep the reservoirs at low levels, JUST IN CASE there's another 500 year storm. Planning for a just in case like that is asinine. And remember back to the low water years...we had to fight to keep every drop of water in those lakes. We don't want a repeat of that either. Unless the system is used strictly for flood control, another flood will happen, it's only a matter of time.

the Coe changed the master manual in in 06 to appease multiple special interest groups and since then they have run the lake up near the rim multiple times which has put the lake one major rain event away from topping out. This year again they are going to have to keep releases high in an attempt to get to 1840 before winter sets in. High releases like this also cause excessive bank erosion in the lake and river and additional sediment accumulation at the headwaters of Oahe which will increase the chance of flooding in the future. Going into the winter with a few few more feet of freeboard maybe 1835 would alleviate fears and problems on multiple issues