Must feel real good

[CrankB8]

Had a nephew play in the Napolean kids Jamboree bball tourney this past Saturday and I just gotta hand it to the Bismarck Ballerz 5th grade traveling "All Star" team. Wow what a bunch of little ballers they've got!
I hate to take away anything from 5th graders who are in love with a sport however, I'd like to take something from that coach of theirs. How much respect do you not have to have to go and beat 3 teams by an average of 55 points? At what lead do you not call off the dogs and stop running and gunning? I get it. You have 8 kids who have not only the ability and athleticism to play ball well, but also have the option of doing it year round. I can't speak for the other small towns that were there but I know my nephew, his cousin, and the rest of his 6 teammates don't have the benefit of a program that goes year round and haven't been able to play or practice competitively for almost 3 months. I hope the coach for that team puts his 1st place trophy on his mantle and his wife really gets turned on by the beating his players were able to put on a bunch of KIDS.
Also, there was a different Jamboree in Jamestown over the weekend that i'm sure would have had a few other big schools that would have put up a fight against their dominance.

 

[Kurtr]

Had a nephew play in the Napolean kids Jamboree bball tourney this past Saturday and I just gotta hand it to the Bismarck Ballerz 5th grade traveling "All Star" team. Wow what a bunch of little ballers they've got!
I hate to take away anything from 5th graders who are in love with a sport however, I'd like to take something from that coach of theirs. How much respect do you not have to have to go and beat 3 teams by an average of 55 points? At what lead do you not call off the dogs and stop running and gunning? I get it. You have 8 kids who have not only the ability and athleticism to play ball well, but also have the option of doing it year round. I can't speak for the other small towns that were there but I know my nephew, his cousin, and the rest of his 6 teammates don't have the benefit of a program that goes year round and haven't been able to play or practice competitively for almost 3 months. I hope the coach for that team puts his 1st place trophy on his mantle and his wife really gets turned on by the beating his players were able to put on a bunch of KIDS.
Also, there was a different Jamboree in Jamestown over the weekend that i'm sure would have had a few other big schools that would have put up a fight against their dominance.

I have coached my kids team here in mobridge since 4th grade he is in 7th now a small town of 3000 i grew up in watertown. We played year round weather it was on the play ground or open gym. Trying to get that mentality going here and its starting to pay off. Starting in 4th grade we were getting our asses kicked by every one now in 7th grade the school season they lost one game and thought they were awesome till we went to bismark and met a west fargo team that put an ass wiping on them and brought them back to earth. i was glad west fargo did not let up. Its good gave them a goal for next year. The next week went to the tourney in ipswich and won it all. Why didnt they get to play or practice for the last 3 months i bet it wasnt the kids saying they would not do it.

 

[Rowdie]

Aren't all dem Napoleon kids sposed to be wrasslin?

 

[Bfishn]

It’s travelling ball not school, sometimes there are massive differences in talent levels and there is only so much you can do. Most kids are playing traveling ball by third grade these days, if you are starting later than that your probably getting your ass kicked for a while. I don’t think the ballers are even the best team in Bismarck for that age.

Bismarck team will play in a tourney almost every weekend through the grand am in grand forks. If they can find a tourney near by in a small town on an off weekend they will be there. Kids learn more from getting there butts kicked than winning all the time so use it as motivation.

 

[MuleyMadness]

Dont hate....appreciate. It takes time and talent to be good at something. If you do it year round you will almost always be better than someone doing it part time. Instead of complaining about it volunteer to be a coach for your nephew and practice with them year round try and get them to that level. To just complain that someone is better at something and you are sorry they got blown out and complain about it on Nodak angler is dumb. Your not gonna get much sympathy around here. You sound like part of the participation trophy group.

 

[johnr]

I think everyone should get a trophy, skill... schmill they shouldn’t even keep score

 

[CrankB8]

Don’t get me wrong not one word about the distaste for their coach was said amongst the boys. It was used as a teaching lesson. Sorry if I came across as a “we all get a trophy “ kinda guy but I’m the furthest from that. As for playing year round, these kids didn’t chose to live 20+ miles from the nearest gym. Their school basketball program ended when high school practice started after thanksgiving. the point of a coach not knowing when enough is enough and somehow seemed to have pleasure in what his team was able to do. Good for him.

 

[Kentucky Windage]

Had a nephew play in the Napolean kids Jamboree bball tourney this past Saturday and I just gotta hand it to the Bismarck Ballerz 5th grade traveling "All Star" team. Wow what a bunch of little ballers they've got!
I hate to take away anything from 5th graders who are in love with a sport however, I'd like to take something from that coach of theirs. How much respect do you not have to have to go and beat 3 teams by an average of 55 points? At what lead do you not call off the dogs and stop running and gunning? I get it. You have 8 kids who have not only the ability and athleticism to play ball well, but also have the option of doing it year round. I can't speak for the other small towns that were there but I know my nephew, his cousin, and the rest of his 6 teammates don't have the benefit of a program that goes year round and haven't been able to play or practice competitively for almost 3 months. I hope the coach for that team puts his 1st place trophy on his mantle and his wife really gets turned on by the beating his players were able to put on a bunch of KIDS.
Also, there was a different Jamboree in Jamestown over the weekend that i'm sure would have had a few other big schools that would have put up a fight against their dominance.

Given what happened and what you wanted to have happen, what would you do as the coach of that team?

 

[CrankB8]

I’d tell my team that with a 25 point lead it’s time to start running plays. If you steal it and have a fast break ok but we’re slowing down the pace of the game and running our offensive sets

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Dont hate....appreciate. It takes time and talent to be good at something. If you do it year round you will almost always be better than someone doing it part time. Instead of complaining about it volunteer to be a coach for your nephew and practice with them year round try and get them to that level. To just complain that someone is better at something and you are sorry they got blown out and complain about it on Nodak angler is dumb. Your not gonna get much sympathy around here. You sound like part of the participation trophy group.

complain about how much better they were? I’m pretty sure I gave those kids credit for their skills. I’m not coming on nodak to get sympathy...I’m discussing something I found pretty gross with an adult getting off seemingly by pounding a bunch of little kids

 

[Kurtr]

What’s the difference if they score a fast break or on every half court possession? Sounds like getting back on defense should be the first thing worked on at practice tonight

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So the Bismarck teams coach was out there telling his kids to run the score up or did he want them to keep playing hard?

 

[db-2]

Five kids and now 10 grandkids, all small town nd. Yes over the weekend my grandkids did not do very well but won one and lost two and then won another and lost another. My how the skills have improve from when my kids were doing this and how it varies at that age mainly due to effort and time put in. A lot of traveling teams including a couple of my grand kids and it is rare for them to lose. But life goes on and did enjoy as I know my grandkids did to. Hockey is the best as all kids play and the same with gym and jumping in the air. Next week I am going shed hunting with four of them. I hope we smoke the sheds. db

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Maybe look at some rules like those kids in the fifth grade from the big towns are not allow to dunk the ball, no/yes.
But in all seriousness i too have holler across the gym for the coach to call his dogs off.
One time i met the coach (my daughters coach) in the middle of the gym when the game got done. I guess my language was not good, so I acted stupidly, as the wife stated and big time for my daughter. She could not quit crying that night. I am sure the coach remembers that night and maybe a few of the town people.
The next day the supt call me in and i thought to discuss what was wrong with sports and the administration but instead he wanted to talk about my language in public. So i politely, with a few choice words, told him to stick it.
All the memories when 30 years have passed. db

 

[walleyeman_1875]

The sports teams these days are crazy especially in the bigger towns like Bismarck. I watched a fourth grade girl this weekend serve a couple overhand better than most high school girls ever could. Overall, it comes down to the commitment of what the parents push on their kids. I take my kids fishing most weekends. Should I be upset that other parents do sports every weekend. I think not.

Ultimately, i think it is the craziness of the parent that drives this....both sports and fishing or hunting!!

 

[Sum1]

If I’m the coach I say win by a hundred if you can. Never take the killer instinct away from kids. Ever. A good coach teaches it. Builds confidence. Confidence is the key to success in anything. If it doesn’t motivate the losers to be better they probably won’t be playing for long anyway. Then again I’m ruthless like that.

Good sportsmanship during and after the game of course

 

[CrankB8]

What’s the difference if they score a fast break or on every half court possession? Sounds like getting back on defense should be the first thing worked on at practice tonight

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So the Bismarck teams coach was out there telling his kids to run the score up or did he want them to keep playing hard?

how about this for a comparison: you coach a little league baseball team. You’re up 15-0 in the 6th inning. Do you leave your ace in that has struck out the side every inning or put in another good pitcher? Then when you get to bat, do you keep stealing bases and going full count on close balls or swing away at anything hitable?
i believe there’s a way to win and be a winner and be able to show your players sportsmanship. These little kids from Bismarck had class and weren’t cocky at all I just think that running fast break outlets with 2 minutes left and up 68-12 is maybe time to slow down the pace and run the clock a bit

 

[DirtyMike]

And this is when I really hope my kid chooses wrestling.

 

[Ericb]

Loosing sucks especially getting blown out. If I were going to be pissed at someone I would point at the organizers for not making it a more competitive event.

 

[gr8outdoors]

Every year I see younger kids, 5-6th graders, doing really well during the season. Season ends and boom, don't touch a ball- be it basketball, volleyball, what have you and come next season look like shit, like they forgot all the fundamentals of said sport. Guess what I'm trying to say is if you don't put in the time n work in the off season, ur only gonna be as good as your 3 or so months of work during the season and gonna be strides behind the ones who work at it all year long!

 

[Chas'n Tail]

I've been a coach for a few years and I feel that there is some validity to both sides. Yes, you want to win the game, and yes blow outs happen. In my humble opinion, though, is that every level under the varsity level (although an argument could be made that the varsity level is as well) is a developmental level. You don't know who is going to hit a late growth spurt, or whose coordination will finally catch up to them later than other athletes. Fundamentals is something that is lacking more and more at a younger age. Some coaches feel that if the 5th grade stud can score every chance he or she gets, then the game plan should be to get it to that player every possession. The problem with that mentality is that in doing that, you are only developing one player. Very few times has a stud player single-handedly given a coach a state trophy in a team sport. I've always believed in running drills, running plays, and rotating the bench early and often. Sure, you may not win them all, but if you are developing ALL your players, there's a better chance at success. Even if it may cost you a win or two along the way. And if you have a blowout win using all your players, it won't be because you were playing certain players and not others. Just my opinion.

 

[db-2]

One day, sum1, when someone runs the score up and does not back off on your little johnny or Susie (and it will happen, if not as a kid playing ball then as an adult in the work field) remember one can not take the killer out of the winners as that is what a good coach does and teaches. I am sure that is the best altitude to have when one gets out in the work place. It will get you right up to the top before anyone else with all kinds of friends surrounding you.

And I believe most coaches where jocks in grade school, high school, college and the Mayville States have no ideal, along with the coaches just what sports is about and what its role is in teaching the kids. Make sure you not only beat the other kids to death but run them into the ground with your chosen few studs, that will teach those loser on the other side, those losers that are on your team (they will never succeed anyways) and one time it will be your kid, they will never succeed in the real world anyways, they are losers.

Most coaches I have met and seen are lost about life, and as being given the job of molding a kid have no ideal how to do that as I stated they have been a jock all their life. It's all about winning with your PE degree from Mayville State.

Make a few parents proud as they relive their youth through their kids.
Give yourselves a pat on the back. Time will tell. db

 

[zoops]

I'll agree with you Crank. Part of sports is sportsmanship and full-court pressing and pushing for baskets when you're up 50, if that's what they were doing, isn't cool. Throwing bombs when up 5 touchdowns in the 4th quarter, stealing bases when up 10 runs, sure it's not against the rules but it's called 'class.' You can argue 'well get better then' and there's some credence to that but I guess I was raised to not humiliate people - I can see that more in a high school game; these kids are 11. It's a little bit of a weird move for a stud Bismarck team to go to a tournament in Napoleon but who knows maybe there was a good knoephla feed at someone's grandma's house afterward.

You can debate the pros and cons of traveling basketball forever but I do hate to see scenarios like this. I think loading up a team with all the best 10 year olds in the city (most of these kind of teams have kids from several schools in my experience) is kind of counterproductive. We've seen participation numbers go down once kids hit middle school and I think this has something to do with it. You stack a team or two who beats everyone by 50 all through grade school and the other teams get the message that "well looks like basketball isn't going to work out for me" and they quit when they're 12 before they've developed physically. Girls especially will say screw it, boys more often hang on until they get cut. Plenty of kids on those stud traveling teams never turn out to be much since all they learn to do is press and make uncontested breakaway layups, or puberty doesn't treat them well. If they had to be 'the guy' on their own traveling team I think they'd develop more skills. Rant over