Pheasants forever

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Have u few wintering groups of birds have been watching and monitoring the one group is living off a wheat stuble 300 plus birds been that way since mid november . Its prolly getting bad scratching for roosters. So am wondering if pheasants forever will work with a landowner and bring in a big grain bag for em or whats everybodies experince with this. These ones have nothing compared to other winterimg groups. A little worried iv contacted the gnf an they do no supplemental feed critters.
 


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Also its in a wintering area for pheasant they come off a huge area in the missouri river bottom lands so the bird catch is like for 10 to 15 miles in this area. Just trying to get my the flock through the hard times. Its a high profile area so alot of people have seen this group.
 

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I have heard the adage birds dont die of lack of grains. But in this case it might happen. Plenty of cover just very little scratch for them.
 

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Have u few wintering groups of birds have been watching and monitoring the one group is living off a wheat stuble 300 plus birds been that way since mid november . Its prolly getting bad scratching for roosters. So am wondering if pheasants forever will work with a landowner and bring in a big grain bag for em or whats everybodies experince with this. These ones have nothing compared to other winterimg groups. A little worried iv contacted the gnf an they do no supplemental feed critters.
Can't feed 'em....likely to catch CWD
 


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So i think i know this guy brock he has the same tag on hunt talk right. Its funny because i think the guy means right but he might be fucking up with the baiting. I think baiting on private land should be annexed. Said and done those landowners that want to sit in a shootimg house its not right. So i walk for my bucks why should those a holes get a free shot on deer . I understand thats the best way to kill a deer standing still or walking. I dont have that i walk them shit heads up and shoot them as they kick.
 

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I think PF does feed nights where the average joe can show up to the elvator and get bags of feed really cheap to put out for the birds...
 

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I know know pheasant forever in minot does a few feed nights. They are screenings if I remember correctly. I'm not a part of their group (should be, seems they do a fantastic job!) as I'm a part of another local one that actually just had a meeting last weekend and brought up supplemental feed in the winter but needed to make some calls first logistics wise.

If you message me I can get in contact with some board members down there that can give you some dates and info! Don't want to share a phone number publicly.

And since someone already brought it up.. Was pretty disappointed to see the department release this article just to try and combat 2137. They plant food plots on public land and I believe even cost share them on private, along with have a presence at, and support feed nights likes the pheasants forever chapters do.

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sp...e-feeding-does-not-benefit-entire-populations
 

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So i think i know this guy brock he has the same tag on hunt talk right. Its funny because i think the guy means right but he might be fucking up with the baiting. I think baiting on private land should be annexed. Said and done those landowners that want to sit in a shootimg house its not right. So i walk for my bucks why should those a holes get a free shot on deer . I understand thats the best way to kill a deer standing still or walking. I dont have that i walk them shit heads up and shoot them as they kick.
That is how we used to rifle hunt also, and I did enjoy it. Now I use pinch points and sit and wait for deer to leave bedding areas or a buck to slip up chasing a doe. Whether it be on a rock pile or a tree row or even a stand.

I don't like the ethics argument because the last 2 deer I've shot I could've killed with an open sight 30/30 lever action at 100 or so yards.. But yet I have a rifle I built where I shoot a group roughly the size of my fist at 800 (it's the rifle I used this year even though I shot the deer I did at 124 yards).

I don't care how someone chooses to hunt.. Recurve vs compound vs crossbow (I hope the old age crossbow bill passes). Spot and stalk vs walking vs sitting in a stand. Lever action vs long range custom build. As long as you can do it and do it effectively and not wound animals (accidents happen), I'm all in favor of it. And thats all because someone is out enjoying our great outdoors, no matter how they choose to do it!
 


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I would think any money spent on winter feeding of roosters would be much, much better spent on habitat development.
 

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During the first anti-feeding Bill around 2009, my cousin who is lead for the ND Weed Board, was contacted by the lobbyist from the wildlife society, Mike McEnroe.

Mike, a retired biologist from US fish and Wildlife Service asked my cousin to testify saying all screenings should be discontinued from being used because they are spreading weeds.

During the hearing my cousin saw how badly they were getting hammered, he didn't testify.
 

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I would think any money spent on winter feeding of roosters would be much, much better spent on habitat development.
I'm all for habitat development.. But groups like pheasants for the future or pheasants forever sometimes don't have the option/land to put it on. They just do the best they can with the resources available.. And I'm damn glad they offer it. It's fun seeing all the birds around.
 

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That is how we used to rifle hunt also, and I did enjoy it. Now I use pinch points and sit and wait for deer to leave bedding areas or a buck to slip up chasing a doe. Whether it be on a rock pile or a tree row or even a stand.

I don't like the ethics argument because the last 2 deer I've shot I could've killed with an open sight 30/30 lever action at 100 or so yards.. But yet I have a rifle I built where I shoot a group roughly the size of my fist at 800 (it's the rifle I used this year even though I shot the deer I did at 124 yards).

I don't care how someone chooses to hunt.. Recurve vs compound vs crossbow (I hope the old age crossbow bill passes). Spot and stalk vs walking vs sitting in a stand. Lever action vs long range custom build. As long as you can do it and do it effectively and not wound animals (accidents happen), I'm all in favor of it. And thats all because someone is out enjoying our great outdoors, no matter how they choose to do it!
This right here...well said. Let people make their own choices. Its called freedom....wait a second pretty sure we have a few commies on here..sorry to offend.
 

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This right here...well said. Let people make their own choices. Its called freedom....wait a second pretty sure we have a few commies on here..sorry to offend.
People bring ethics into this all the time. Let's look down on someone and talk negatively about them because of the way they hunt. It's a dying sport. Let's try to encourage people to do it however they want! (I do like to give snow goose jump shooters some grief even though I partook as a kid..)

The more sportsmen we have the better and more likely This tradition we all love carries on. There's a reason we're on here arguing about it/discussing, it's because we care about it.
 


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People bring ethics into this all the time. Let's look down on someone and talk negatively about them because of the way they hunt. It's a dying sport. Let's try to encourage people to do it however they want! (I do like to give snow goose jump shooters some grief even though I partook as a kid..)

The more sportsmen we have the better and more likely This tradition we all love carries on. There's a reason we're on here arguing about it/discussing, it's because we care about it.
100% agree. What works for you i may not agree with, but who the hell am I to tell you what to do or vice versa. Let people be and enjoy the hunt how you may see fit..
 

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This will sound a half a bubble off plum, but IMO, if you want more roosters in the fall, you have to kill more roosters in the fall. What I mean by that is roosters are bigger, stronger, and more aggressive than hens. As a result, more hens die each winter than do roosters simply by the roosters pushing the hens off food, pushing hens out of cover to be more exposed to the elements, and basically bullying them around all winter. Just watch a group of pheasants feeding in a field and watch what the roosters do to the hens. When a hen finds a cob of corn and starts to feed, inevitably a dickhead rooster runs over and kicks her off the cob and eats it himself. Just look at a group of pheasants hiding behind a piece of good cover in a winter wind and see where the roosters are and where the hens are. The azzhole roosters are in the dead middle and most protected while the hens are on the outside and more exposed. Research confirms that hens suffer significantly more winter mortality than do roosters. I think the limit needs to be doubled or tripled. Each hen saved is 6-10 chicks hatched in the spring. Half of them being roosters. Just a thought.
 

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This will sound a half a bubble off plum, but IMO, if you want more roosters in the fall, you have to kill more roosters in the fall. What I mean by that is roosters are bigger, stronger, and more aggressive than hens. As a result, more hens die each winter than do roosters simply by the roosters pushing the hens off food, pushing hens out of cover to be more exposed to the elements, and basically bullying them around all winter. Just watch a group of pheasants feeding in a field and watch what the roosters do to the hens. When a hen finds a cob of corn and starts to feed, inevitably a dickhead rooster runs over and kicks her off the cob and eats it himself. Just look at a group of pheasants hiding behind a piece of good cover in a winter wind and see where the roosters are and where the hens are. The azzhole roosters are in the dead middle and most protected while the hens are on the outside and more exposed. Research confirms that hens suffer significantly more winter mortality than do roosters. I think the limit needs to be doubled or tripled. Each hen saved is 6-10 chicks hatched in the spring. Half of them being roosters. Just a thought.
And watch a hawk or owl swoop in on 10 colorful roosters and one hen. The hen gets it. Easier take down.
 

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This will sound a half a bubble off plum, but IMO, if you want more roosters in the fall, you have to kill more roosters in the fall. What I mean by that is roosters are bigger, stronger, and more aggressive than hens. As a result, more hens die each winter than do roosters simply by the roosters pushing the hens off food, pushing hens out of cover to be more exposed to the elements, and basically bullying them around all winter. Just watch a group of pheasants feeding in a field and watch what the roosters do to the hens. When a hen finds a cob of corn and starts to feed, inevitably a dickhead rooster runs over and kicks her off the cob and eats it himself. Just look at a group of pheasants hiding behind a piece of good cover in a winter wind and see where the roosters are and where the hens are. The azzhole roosters are in the dead middle and most protected while the hens are on the outside and more exposed. Research confirms that hens suffer significantly more winter mortality than do roosters. I think the limit needs to be doubled or tripled. Each hen saved is 6-10 chicks hatched in the spring. Half of them being roosters. Just a thought.
Agreed completely! Get that ratio in the sweet spot and it's way better for the birds all around!
 

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