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Double the fees and half would come…revenue would stay the same.... this would help a lot with pressure and access issues. I pay out of my ass to hunt in other states…. They can here too. And before anyone of you cucks says “what about the kids from other states……” i don’t give a damn about kids from other states. I give a damn about kids from this state being pushed out of hunting or parents not introducing them to hunting because of the shit show it’s become with the access issues.
I don't really care to bring out kids from this state other than my own or my family's kids anymore. Used to be active in conservation club sponsored youth hunt events. Showing kids how/where to hunt was great. now those same kids and their buddies can drive - resulting in those areas becoming inundated with those kids and their buddies. Those same clubs should have a "Remember you Mentor" sponsored hunts, as a way to show appreciation. Essentially can't even bring my own kids to hunt those areas anymore..
 


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posted or not. permission specifically granted or accessed simply because it's not posted. allan is right. landowners have some liability protection written into the NDCC. however, accept even $0.01 for that access and that protection goes away.
 

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for all the people bitching about not having land to hunt on because they either don’t own any land or don’t wanna go to some farmers yard and actually talk to them, maybe they should just stop hunting. The land is not yours. Stop being an entitled asshole and get to hunt property that doesn’t even belong to you.
 


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Funny you ask- my thread on here looking for elk hunters got 0 results- but i have let 2 people shoot elk (330" bull and cow) this year with others still hunting. i haven't shot anything since 2019 yet lots deer, elk, and turkeys have been shot on mine. some landowners are dicks and some hunters are too. ruins it for everyone both ways.

side note- a lot of insurance companies want your land posted now for liability issues i have neighbors that don't hunt post theirs for that reason- if you call them they'd say hunt all you want but their not liable.


Oh yeah, and major kudos to you for allowing access to those lucky elk hunters! We average Joe hunters do really appreciate you and the many other landowners like you!
 

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for all the people bitching about not having land to hunt on because they either don’t own any land or don’t wanna go to some farmers yard and actually talk to them, maybe they should just stop hunting. The land is not yours. Stop being an entitled asshole and get to hunt property that doesn’t even belong to you.
I've already pretty much quit hunting for many reasons but be careful what you wish for when all of the peasants give up hunting there will be a lot less support for not just hunting but guns and shooting sports as well. It's happened in other countries and unfortunately we seem to be heading down the same road.
 

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some landowners are dicks and some hunters are too. ruins it for everyone both ways.
And there is more every year. One bad egg ticks off ten good people and it feeds on itself.
I see posts of landowners that put time and money into attracting wildlife to hunt for themselves. I can sure understand that and wish them luck. Some save their land for family and friends. I can also understand that. Some post and have their hand out, forgetting that a large portion of their income is that other guys taxes. As a capitalist I dislike the socialist subsidy program.
About the only thing I hunt anymore is deer and coyote. Deer on relatives land and coyotes where farm friends have asked me to come and shoot coyotes.
I still do a lot of shooting, but less hunting every year. Many reasons for that. Artificial knees, rotator cuff surgeries and problems, neuropathy ( cost me $9k last week to replace teeth when my face bounced off my stone patio. Very poor balance. Then there are the landowners. When your respectful some are nice many are not. I have run into to many to talk to them anymore. Those who say they have no problem either open their wallet or they are liars.
Unfortunately groups like Farm Bureau push things like electronic posting. I can't remember a single thing Farm Bureau has done that benefits anyone but them. This is all going to end with no private land hunting, and no support for agriculture. We are shooting each other in the foot. The don't touch my corn isn't rare.
Oh, and mostly what I see is landowners crapping on other landowners. Like a relative who has 800 acres of river bottom of which 20 acres is hay. Some years it comes up sweet clover and the neighbor drives back and fourth through it looking for deer. The same guy posted a neighbors field after the neighbor said he could not. He talked one neighbor into letting him post three sections. He said they would pay him $100 per deer that they took. They took a lot and said they got nothing. We had hunted the land for years so we asked knowing what to expect, but curiouse. He said the property tax on the aea we wanted to hunt was $2800 and if we gave him $2800 we could hunt it. It wasn't his land. It's not always the city people that are the problem.
 
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And there is more every year. One bad egg ticks off ten good people and it feeds on itself.
I see posts of landowners that put time and money into attracting wildlife to hunt for themselves. I can sure understand that and wish them luck. Some save their land for family and friends. I can also understand that. Some post and have their hand out, forgetting that a large portion of their income is that other guys taxes. As a capitalist I dislike the socialist subsidy program.
About the only thing I hunt anymore is deer and coyote. Deer on relatives land and coyotes where farm friends have asked me to come and shoot coyotes.
I still do a lot of shooting, but less hunting every year. Many reasons for that. Artificial knees, rotator cuff surgeries and problems, neuropathy ( cost me $9k last week to replace teeth when my face bounced off my stone patio. Very poor balance. Then there are the landowners. When your respectful some are nice many are not. I have run into to many to talk to them anymore. Those who say they have no problem either open their wallet or they are liars.
Unfortunately groups like Farm Bureau push things like electronic posting. I can't remember a single thing Farm Bureau has done that benefits anyone but them. This is all going to end with no private land hunting, and no support for agriculture. We are shooting each other in the foot. The don't touch my corn isn't rare.
Oh, and mostly what I see is landowners crapping on other landowners. Like a relative who has 800 acres of river bottom of which 20 acres is hay. Some years it comes up sweet clover and the neighbor drives back and fourth through it looking for deer. The same guy posted a neighbors field after the neighbor said he could not. He talked one neighbor into letting him post three sections. He said they would pay him $100 per deer that they took. They took a lot and said they got nothing. We had hunted the land for years so we asked knowing what to expect, but curiouse. He said the property tax on the aea we wanted to hunt was $2800 and if we gave him $2800 we could hunt it. It wasn't his land. It's not always the city people that are the problem.
After reading this clanging bell, almost chipped a tooth bouncing my head off my stone fireplace.
 

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I've already pretty much quit hunting for many reasons but be careful what you wish for when all of the peasants give up hunting there will be a lot less support for not just hunting but guns and shooting sports as well. It's happened in other countries and unfortunately we seem to be heading down the same road.
I've been saying this since the 90's. My first job out of college in 95 landed me in pheasant country USA. South central SD! This county started pay hunting. None of the locals hunted! All landowners either charged or sold their hunting rights to the local outfitters. There are numerous game preserves, and many locals raise pheasants, with most using the small cages where they put blinders on them

Point is, the local guys were already sort of anti hunting. Not so much anti-hunting as anti-hunting tourist assholes who take over the area every fall. And while road hunting is legal in SD, you don't dare want to be the one that does it down there. There were a few section lines I mountain biked on that a guy could have legally walked, but since they bordered a popular reserve, no one did it that I know of.
 


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I've been saying this since the 90's. My first job out of college in 95 landed me in pheasant country USA. South central SD! This county started pay hunting. None of the locals hunted! All landowners either charged or sold their hunting rights to the local outfitters. There are numerous game preserves, and many locals raise pheasants, with most using the small cages where they put blinders on them

Point is, the local guys were already sort of anti hunting. Not so much anti-hunting as anti-hunting tourist assholes who take over the area every fall. And while road hunting is legal in SD, you don't dare want to be the one that does it down there. There were a few section lines I mountain biked on that a guy could have legally walked, but since they bordered a popular reserve, no one did it that I know of.
Speaking of pen raised pheasants, about the largest producer was Dakota Game Birds southeast of Bismarck. He went out of business 3 years ago. Did a quick search and there is just about no one left raising birds in North Dakota.
 

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I've been saying this since the 90's. My first job out of college in 95 landed me in pheasant country USA. South central SD! This county started pay hunting. None of the locals hunted! All landowners either charged or sold their hunting rights to the local outfitters. There are numerous game preserves, and many locals raise pheasants, with most using the small cages where they put blinders on them

Point is, the local guys were already sort of anti hunting. Not so much anti-hunting as anti-hunting tourist assholes who take over the area every fall. And while road hunting is legal in SD, you don't dare want to be the one that does it down there. There were a few section lines I mountain biked on that a guy could have legally walked, but since they bordered a popular reserve, no one did it that I know of.
Must have been lucky i got to hunt around winner all the time mid 90's and on. Friend had family down there. Met a girl at basketball camp in 95 from geddes and her family let us hunt all around there and platte . We road hunted all over in those parts never had a problem. I seen more locals hunting around there than i have ever in mobridge. Maybe opening weekend ( more drinking than hunting) and then its pretty much the local poacher running every ones land and local road hunters.
 

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And there is more every year. One bad egg ticks off ten good people and it feeds on itself.
I see posts of landowners that put time and money into attracting wildlife to hunt for themselves. I can sure understand that and wish them luck. Some save their land for family and friends. I can also understand that. Some post and have their hand out, forgetting that a large portion of their income is that other guys taxes. As a capitalist I dislike the socialist subsidy program.
About the only thing I hunt anymore is deer and coyote. Deer on relatives land and coyotes where farm friends have asked me to come and shoot coyotes.
I still do a lot of shooting, but less hunting every year. Many reasons for that. Artificial knees, rotator cuff surgeries and problems, neuropathy ( cost me $9k last week to replace teeth when my face bounced off my stone patio. Very poor balance. Then there are the landowners. When your respectful some are nice many are not. I have run into to many to talk to them anymore. Those who say they have no problem either open their wallet or they are liars.
Unfortunately groups like Farm Bureau push things like electronic posting. I can't remember a single thing Farm Bureau has done that benefits anyone but them. This is all going to end with no private land hunting, and no support for agriculture. We are shooting each other in the foot. The don't touch my corn isn't rare.
Oh, and mostly what I see is landowners crapping on other landowners. Like a relative who has 800 acres of river bottom of which 20 acres is hay. Some years it comes up sweet clover and the neighbor drives back and fourth through it looking for deer. The same guy posted a neighbors field after the neighbor said he could not. He talked one neighbor into letting him post three sections. He said they would pay him $100 per deer that they took. They took a lot and said they got nothing. We had hunted the land for years so we asked knowing what to expect, but curiouse. He said the property tax on the aea we wanted to hunt was $2800 and if we gave him $2800 we could hunt it. It wasn't his land. It's not always the city people that are the problem.
Farming once was mainly small family run farms/ranches but today it is mostly large businesses and should be treated like every other business in ND. Once rural land owners lose the support of city dwellers the city dwellers will start voting to benefit the city and vote against support of the rural areas and their subsidies and exemptions will dry up.
 

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Farming once was mainly small family run farms/ranches but today it is mostly large businesses and should be treated like every other business in ND. Once rural land owners lose the support of city dwellers the city dwellers will start voting to benefit the city and vote against support of the rural areas and their subsidies and exemptions will dry up.
I do believe the bureau is slowly digging it’s own grave with its anti-sportsman beliefs. They like to claim they support hunting and fishing, but their idea of a “real sportsman” is a farmer or someone paying the farmer. Relationships can’t be unrequiated.
 

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I do believe the bureau is slowly digging it’s own grave with its anti-sportsman beliefs. They like to claim they support hunting and fishing, but their idea of a “real sportsman” is a farmer or someone paying the farmer. Relationships can’t be unrequiated.
Do you talk like this when asking a landowner? Is it any wonder you are disgruntled.
 


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Do you talk like this when asking a landowner? Is it any wonder you are disgruntled.
Haha, I forgot. No criticizing the almighty bureau.

No in fact I am a non-disgruntled landowner with friends and family who graciously let me hunt theirs as well. In addition to public. And I will talk however I damn well feel.
 

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Oh yeah, and major kudos to you for allowing access to those lucky elk hunters! We average Joe hunters do really appreciate you and the many other landowners like you!
having land doesn't make you special. i'm an below average joe hunter 😂.
 

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Farming once was mainly small family run farms/ranches but today it is mostly large businesses and should be treated like every other business in ND. Once rural land owners lose the support of city dwellers the city dwellers will start voting to benefit the city and vote against support of the rural areas and their subsidies and exemptions will dry up.
Im a small family farmer. i haven't got a gov check in years and if you want to point out insurance subsidies look at healthcare- my rates doubled once subsidized. i think small farmers would be better off not subsidized. farmers evil-hunters evil-landowners evil- got it!
 


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