Red River Find of a Livetime - Stag Antler

[johnr]

Gst=bigballs

 

[Captain Ahab]

I remember a guy diving in the 'race when I was a kid. He wore a dry suit with what looked like a light snowsuit under it. He dove in up by the dam and came up by the landing area. Dad and I talked to him briefly. Could have been you, I guess.

 

[Bed Wetter]

Gst=bigballs

We should really take more opportunities like this to provide positive reinforcement. Sometimes I worry GST has low self esteem.

 

[CatDaddy]

Had to chuckle after reading your post i was going to say their way seemed odd because I was curious on what they told you to do vs what ive read. Much of what I saw said to usemail a polyvinyl acetate mix. But before I posted the question i figured I should look up what the hell polyvinyl acetate is in the first place. That is where the chuckle came in because this was the first thing I saw in the results! :;:thumbsup



But there is still one big difference though. With the ones I've read about you do this prior to drying in a 50/50 split with distilled water so it has a chance to soak into the bone to firm it up prior to dehydrating the bone to stave off any cracking. With as cracked as yours is I'm not sure if it would matter but who knows maybe without it it might just fall apart.

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Here is one straight off of wikipedia.

This is fantastic. Thank you! I have a few other sources I'm consulting to ensure I've covered all my bases....in the mean time, wet towel to keep it from drying much at all in the basement.

 

[gst]

Ha, I can guarantee you that after a New Years Eve dive in the river with a wet suit there was nothing "big" left anywhere. Think
(George Castanza pool scene)

It was back in the late 80's early 90's.

A couple guys we dove with had dry suits and wore the snowmobile suits under neath like mentioned, I never did, they were spendy at the time. We always had a boat following above us that could grab the dive flag and give a tug to let us know we needed to get to surface. The guy with the flag ALWAYS was in the lead. At the night dives we dove with those glow sticks that the people in the boat could see even if your light went out. The process was like what Ahab mentioned. Ride the boat up to the dam and take out at the landing. Some years open water went further south and gave you a longer dive but the ride back to the landing resulted in a frozen wet suit that you could hardly get out of.

Did have a propane heater in the dive trailer though so a few minutes thawing and having a shot of home made schnapps and you were good to go.

We used to do a lot of diving with a good friend that owned the dive shop in Minot (Dakota Divers). Dives in front of the dam could get you down pretty deep close to 100 feet and pretty dark. Had a couple people freak out on those.

There used to be a large tree between Wolf Point and the Dam we called the Christmas tree. Some July 4ths we would have our "Christmas in July" and go get lures off it. Lots of stuff hanging off it including a couple down riggers but you could get wrapped up in fishing line if you were not careful when collecting lures. Had to cut a guy lose once, he never dove there again with us.

I never did like ice dives though, kinda cool walking upside down under the ice, but just not for me.

Diving safe is all in the prep. My friend was one of the best instructors around.

Anyways, there were a few cool deals like this antler found in the river below the dam.

 

[johnr]

Kind of makes me feel uneasy just reading about it.

I have a good buddy on the Bismarck dive rescue, he has some awful stories about going in looking for people that didn't come back up..

 

[dean nelson]

Speaking of old stuff on corp ground. Has anyone ever found any fish or anamal fossils that are sandwiched in the rocks. Seen a few places where there are literally thousands of leaves in them like the pic below but never any anamals. Unfortunately legally you can't take them but it's still cool to sit there fishing and find a dozen or more within arms length.



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Ha, I can guarantee you that after a New Years Eve dive in the river with a wet suit there was nothing "big" left anywhere. Think
(George Castanza pool scene)

It was back in the late 80's early 90's.

A couple guys we dove with had dry suits and wore the snowmobile suits under neath like mentioned, I never did, they were spendy at the time. We always had a boat following above us that could grab the dive flag and give a tug to let us know we needed to get to surface. The guy with the flag ALWAYS was in the lead. At the night dives we dove with those glow sticks that the people in the boat could see even if your light went out. The process was like what Ahab mentioned. Ride the boat up to the dam and take out at the landing. Some years open water went further south and gave you a longer dive but the ride back to the landing resulted in a frozen wet suit that you could hardly get out of.

Did have a propane heater in the dive trailer though so a few minutes thawing and having a shot of home made schnapps and you were good to go.

We used to do a lot of diving with a good friend that owned the dive shop in Minot (Dakota Divers). Dives in front of the dam could get you down pretty deep close to 100 feet and pretty dark. Had a couple people freak out on those.

There used to be a large tree between Wolf Point and the Dam we called the Christmas tree. Some July 4ths we would have our "Christmas in July" and go get lures off it. Lots of stuff hanging off it including a couple down riggers but you could get wrapped up in fishing line if you were not careful when collecting lures. Had to cut a guy lose once, he never dove there again with us.

I never did like ice dives though, kinda cool walking upside down under the ice, but just not for me.

Diving safe is all in the prep. My friend was one of the best instructors around.

Anyways, there were a few cool deals like this antler found in the river below the dam.

To me that sounds fun as hell other then the whole cold part of it. Know what your saying about the sense of flying as I used to free dive the river down by bismarck allot when I was a kid. Vis was considerably lower than what is found at tail race though and nowhere near the speed of the water but fun none the less. Was cool to come streaking over a sandbar then follow the dropoff on the backside and see the fish hanging out there. But was spooky as shit if you suddenly found yourself in a tree you didn't know was there or go head on into a big ass paddle fish like my buddy did.

 

[Brian Renville]

I have ran into a few places while chasing muleys about halfway up the sides of the breaks that you can brush into the dry clay with your hand and the shells and other formerly aquatic species just come tumbling out into your hand. Pretty neat find just can be quite the creepy climb to get to them.

 

[CatDaddy]

It's a slow go with communication to the Heritage Center in Bismarck. Anyone have any suggestions in Fargo?

 

[Account Deleted]

NDSU have a paleo department?

 

[Lou63]

I have some limestone in my yard from Kansas that is full of seashells. lots of it down there as well if you find the right places you can even find sharks teeth.

 

[CatDaddy]

NDSU have a paleo department?

I feel dumb - I'm an NDSU student and didn't think of that. I found they had Anthropology, not sure if they deal with animals. Worth a shot. Thinking about calling the Heritage Hjemkomst Center too.....

 

[Account Deleted]

Anthro won't, at least not an expert level, but they may be hobbyists or know someone that can help you.

 

[CatDaddy]

Anthro won't, at least not an expert level, but they may be hobbyists or know someone that can help you.

I took Anthro 101 to clear some generals I needed and stopped going to class because I'd already learned everything they were teaching on Discovery Channel. I got a 98 in the class.

 

[Account Deleted]

Its nothing against the anthro department. It's just that they study people, not critters.

 

[Trapper62]

[SIZE=+2]He was a professor of mine and really knows his stuff or can direct you to the right people.[/SIZE][SIZE=+2]


Donald P. Schwert
[/SIZE]Professor Emeritus of Geology
Department of Geosciences
Geosciences Bldg. 205
Dept. 2745
P.O. Box 6050
North Dakota State University
Fargo, ND 58108-6050, USA[SIZE=+0][/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]E-mail: donald.schwert@ndsu.edu


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[CatDaddy]

Thanks Trapper62! I'll give him a try.

 

[svnmag]

You get the glue applied?

 

[CatDaddy]

You get the glue applied?

Still drying - it will take it awhile. The thing is super water logged. Appears to be going well though, no further cracks or weak spots.

 

[svnmag]

I'm thinking a 1911 grip goal.