Representative Dockter

[Obi-Wan]

Like they did to Trump in New York, defrauded no one, and got hit with a 400,000,000+ fine...

completely different situation. trump was a private citizen not an elected official. Trump didn’t get to vote or make the final decision on the loans Trump had a disclaimer to check for themselves, the banks said it wouldn’t have changed the loan, trump defrauded no one while this guy defrauded the state of North Dakota.

 

[Trip McNeely]

When one is given authority and power by the public and they abuse that authority the consequences should be severe.

Someone should introduce a bill next session that would call for double the maximum penalty for any crime committed by a member of the state legislature. We’d see real fast who doesn’t think they are capable of flying a straightened arrow by the way they vote.

 

[camper]

Someone should introduce a bill next session that would call for double the maximum penalty for any crime committed by a member of the state legislature. We’d see real fast who doesn’t think they are capable of flying a straightened arrow by the way they vote.

Hahaha. You’ll never see that kind of bill from a republican controlled legislature. Just like the impotent republican controlled ethics committee. Dream on.

 

[Fester]

When one is given authority and power by the public and they abuse that authority the consequences should be severe.

100% agree

 

[Allen]

Hahaha. You’ll never see that kind of bill from a republican controlled legislature. Just like the impotent republican controlled ethics committee. Dream on.

Know of many Democrat-led legislatures that have passed something along this line?

 

[camper]

Know of many Democrat-led legislatures that have passed something along this line?

I was talking about North Dakota. Why must we always try to deflect rather than take responsibility. Is it a maga thing?

 

[Allen]

I was talking about North Dakota. Why must we always try to deflect rather than take responsibility. Is it a maga thing?

I too am talking about ND, or any similar state. There's no deflection here. Either the Dems have moved to prevent this in the future or they haven't.

 

[Reprobait]

With all the money the state has, why are they leasing office space rather than building?

 

[Fester]

With all the money the state has, why are they leasing office space rather than building?

Not a CPA or anything but can't they write off lease costs vs ownership?

 

[Allen]

Not a CPA or anything but can't they write off lease costs vs ownership?

Umm, write offs are for taxpayers, not tax collectors.

There are a couple of reasons the State leases office space versus building their own. First and foremost, this is a state inhabited by mostly Republicans. Republicans as a general rule, want to contract out as much of government functions as possible. In this example, they would prefer to see a private enterprise make a buck out of renting to the state.

Secondly, and somewhat irrespective of the above, renting allows the State to be more nimble (well, as nimble as government can be) when it comes to a changing workforce. If you build, that's a long-term commitment and comes with risk, both natural and economic. Thus, the State can always pull out and go a cheaper route at the end of the rental term.

 

[Fester]

Umm, write offs are for taxpayers, not tax collectors.

There are a couple of reasons the State leases office space versus building their own. First and foremost, this is a state inhabited by mostly Republicans. Republicans as a general rule, want to contract out as much of government functions as possible. In this example, they would prefer to see a private enterprise make a buck out of renting to the state.

Secondly, and somewhat irrespective of the above, renting allows the State to be more nimble (well, as nimble as government can be) when it comes to a changing workforce. If you build, that's a long-term commitment and comes with risk, both natural and economic. Thus, the State can always pull out and go a cheaper route at the end of the rental term.

Tax collectors from my understanding still pay taxes on their property do they not? As an example if the state of nd owns 4 acres of land that property still has taxes due for it.

 

[Trip McNeely]

I believe you are correct. The ndgnf pays tax for each acre owned or in a wma to the state. What’s funny is the thought that government entities use tax money collected to pay taxes on property that taxes are used to maintain. That’s like scooping water out of the pool and pouring it back in and saying you filled it up

Tax collectors from my understanding still pay taxes on their property do they not? As an example if the state of nd owns 4 acres of land that property still has taxes due for it

 

[Allen]

NDGF often makes what they call PILT (payments in-lieu of taxes) for WMAs and other pieces of land that farmers didn't want to see taken away from agricultural production and property tax payments to the county. Again, those payments go to counties, not the state of ND. SOme in the ag community were pretty adamant about this.

While there may be other state-owned properties that make some form of payments in-lieu of property tax to counties and/or cities I don't know about, these are still something akin to property taxes. Are there deductions or write-offs in the world of property taxes I don't know about?

 

[Sluggo]

With all the money the state has, why are they leasing office space rather than building?

With all the employees the state has telecommuting, why would they even need more office space? Use what they have.

 

[Obi-Wan]

With all the employees the state has telecommuting, why would they even need more office space? Use what they have.

widespread studies based on standard measures of efficiency have found that fully remote employees are 10% to 20% less productive than those working on company premises.

State employees are not known for their production do you want them to accomplish even less than they do when on site ?

 

[Trip McNeely]

widespread studies based on standard measures of efficiency have found that fully remote employees are 10% to 20% less productive than those working on company premises.

State employees are not known for their production do you want them to accomplish even less than they do when on site ?

What?!! You mean our state employees aren’t the hardest working bunch west of the Mississippi? Coulda fooled me

 

[Fester]

What?!! You mean our state employees aren’t the hardest working bunch west of the Mississippi? Coulda fooled me

Ha I know this is city but very similar..another thread talked about how bad the traffic lights were...there was a city employee on here reading the complaints....how did that turn out? Good example of hard worker trying to solve problems for the tax payor....we need less govt..

 

[camper]

Too much whining about everything on this site. I got a mind to leave this site.

 

[shorthairsrus]

those who approved the change orders wrote the change orders.

explain this again? Who at the state approved this?

 

[Wall-eyes]

Not a CPA or anything but can't they write off lease costs vs ownership?

Because of the these crooks would make no money, just like whole bunch of them