SB2168 - 440 yard rule

[zoops]

Would this make it so you can't hunt public land or land you have permission on if it's within 440 of someone's else's house (without permission)?

 

[Wall-eyes]

I always thought it was the law now in effect, which I have seen done by hunters for years.

 

[Petras]

So with this amendment, if I'm reading it correctly, If I want to hunt pheasents on my families land, I'd have to get permission from the neighbors because they have a house/storage buildings within 440 yards of the sloughs I like to walk? No Fucking Thanks...

 

[powerman]

This is a bad bill and should go down in flames. Private property and game and fish land will both be negatively effected by this language. My house borders both and this would say you cannot hunt public land because I chose to build a house next to it? Or private landowner would not be able to hunt his land because it is within 440 yards? Sportsman should just take it upon themselves to be aware of their surroundings and not shoot towards these structures.

 

[KDM]

As I see it, it basically would mean that if a guy has a half a mile square piece of land and plunks down a 10X10 storage building right in the dead center of the land, regardless of if the land is posted or not, you couldn't hunt it. It also opens the door to include your own land as they remove the statement "upon the premises of another". What a mess this would make. Urban hunting would be a thing of the past. It would be illegal to hunt any patch of trees that has a building on it. I would guess even an old abandoned house with no roof or falling down barn would qualify. Even old grain bins and graineries might be included. Railroad buildings, rural water buildings, oil company buildings, utility company buildings, you name it could be included here if I read it right. You think finding hunting spots is difficult now? If this passes it might be darn near impossible, which I would guess is the whole point of this measure. Carry On.

 

[SDMF]

I think this kind of stuff comes up because:

1. Someone buys/builds a house out of town not realizing people will hunt where it's legal and not realizing they can't keep people off of what they don't own.
2. One landowner allows access and a 2nd doesn't, irritating #2
3. One landowner puts land into plots or allows access to F with an adjacent landowner they don't get along with for whatever reason.

What happens when instead of hunting, the adjacent landowner doesn't like dust, noise, or smell created by ag or livestock production? Think that can't happen? Look @ the class-action lawsuits for RoundUp. You give up 1/4Mi of your property for "hunting dangers", farm chemicals might not be far behind. After all, the lawsuits for RoundUp are 10x + the size of say the Remington Walker Trigger settlement........

 

[scrotcaster]

who is the legislators behind this ?

 

[SupressYourself]

It says "without the consent of the property owner". I take that to mean the owner of the property you're hunting on, not the owner of the property where the structure sits. Even so it's crap.

Can I hunt this spot? Lets see...
1. Is it electronically posted?
2. Is it physically posted?
3. Is there an old outhouse somewhere in the trees?
Never mind, I give up...

 

[guywhofishes]

Would this make it so you can't hunt public land or land you have permission on if it's within 440 of someone's else's house (without permission)?

Holy cow is that awful!!!

 

[Trip McNeely]

If this were to pass anyone with a grudge against a neighbor would put up a cheap structure right on the property line. This bill has zero logic behind it and is beyond impractical

 

[Trip McNeely]

I always thought it was the law now in effect, which I have seen done by hunters for years.

The law now is written so if you have permission to hunt land x…It doesn’t matter if land y has a structure on it. As it should be. If this joke of a bill were to pass 10s of thousands of acres or more would be off limits. You could buy a plot of land and not be able to hunt your own land because old man asshole across the road won’t let you. Terrible terrible bill.

 

[guywhofishes]

who is the legislators behind this ?

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[Trip McNeely]

The more I think about it the more I realize jist how stupid this bill is and cant actually believe someone would put it forward. I’ve seen quite a few “plots” chunks where the farmstead is posted or not in plots but all the land around it is in plots. It’s actually fairly common. This law would require you to get permission to hunt it… we’ve literally reached full circle into retardville. Having neighbors dictate what you can do on your own property seems like a pretty giant over reach

 

[guywhofishes]

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[Trip McNeely]

If this law passes Im going to buy a quarter of land and put Menards sheds on every corner of my property and in the middle of the property line so no one can hunt within 440 yards or 1/4 of a mile from my land….. then my neighbors out of spite will put them on the line near mine so I cant hunt my own land either we all will need permission from each other to hunt our own land….. Im more shocked someone thought this was a good idea to submit than the actual bill itself

 

[SDMF]

If this law passes Im going to buy a quarter of land and put Menards sheds on every corner of my property and in the middle of the property line so no one can hunt within 440 yards or 1/4 of a mile from my land….. then my neighbors out of spite will put them on the line near mine so I cant hunt my own land either

1. Someone buys/builds a house out of town not realizing people will hunt where it's legal and not realizing they can't keep people off of what they don't own.
2. One landowner allows access and a 2nd doesn't, irritating #2
3. One landowner puts land into plots or allows access to F with an adjacent landowner they don't get along with for whatever reason.

All over tail-feathers, antlers, and a misunderstanding of "country living" when country things happen........

 

[powerman]

Or am I reading the bill wrong? As long as you have permission you can hunt right up to said structure? If so does non posted land,wma,plots have implied consent to hunt within the 440?

IMO the 440 yard rule should be done away with. Too many areas that would limit hunting on public and private land. Also says hunting which is very vague. A bow, muzzleloader, shotgun, and or rifle have much different impacts on a 1/4 mile surroundings.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Next they will come after target shooting , the way this is written you can shoot targets all day long you just can't hunt.

 

[Obi-Wan]

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[Obi-Wan]

Years back we were hunting land by fort rice which was a game management area. just on the N side of the area were buildings and the owner had placed " no shooting within 440 yds of building " signs 400 yds into the management area. The local warden told us to ignore them and we could hunt up to the fence of the management area.